• Victor@lemmy.world
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    23 hours ago

    Not only billionaires. Scientists claim this is just a phase of the earth that has taken place many times in the past. Scientists are saying it, but are being drowned out or silenced. So there’s people saying this and people saying that, and it’s impossible for any one person to trust the words of anybody else in this very complex and complicated matter, with many, many stakeholders.

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      22 hours ago

      Scientists claim this is just a phase of the earth that has taken place many times in the past.

      1. When it happened before, everything died off
      2. This is the first one caused by its inhabitants
      3. Climate science intends to prevent both of those.

      So the scientists who claim so aren’t being genuine, not being truthful, and they’ve moved the goalposts. And probably are real dicks at parties.

      Other than that, bang-on.

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        6 hours ago

        The last time it happened wasn’t too long ago and things didn’t die off in droves as far as I understood.

        These findings also say that carbon dioxide and methane gas aren’t the main causes for global warming and the climate change, as they weren’t the last time(s) either.

        I’m not going to involve ad hominems here against either side (ahem), I’m just relaying the findings.

        There are scientists saying this and there are scientists saying that, and that’s all we know until we deep dive into the studies to analyze and scrutinize them ourselves.

        Science was wrong about sugar and fat for decades, too. No need to down vote here. I just think it’s important to take all findings into consideration before we sink trillions of dollars into changing the world into something that isn’t really helping. Or inventing things that might release less CO2 but release more toxins for other reasons, like electric cars e.g. (I say as an EV driver…)

        Again, I’m not saying either side is wrong or right. But it’s important not to stigmatize being open to all the science. Stigmatizing isn’t scientific at all. That’s mob mentality and very dangerous.

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          There was is no both sides here and pretending there is is wrong.

          All the original research came from the petroleum companies themselves. It has since been confirmed by a consensus of scientists multiple times over the last six decades.

          There is always doubt in science. This is a good thing. Using this doubt to pretend there is some other major consensus is disingenuous.