Inb4 LTT tries to game on it and then smugly implies that Chinese products are inferior and Chinese people are liars.
He still gets views? 💀
I’ve seen this shit, it gets me that this dude is cynical to the point that he says that the card is new and the drivers aren’t fully opengl and directx compliant yet, it is focused on ia and at the end spill the old oriental cheap knockoff fallacy
Yeah I stopped watching LTT after the allegations came out, I was getting tired of his shtick anyway. But watching people try to make games run on unusual hardware is fun. I find that Steve at GamersNexus gives similar info but in a more thorough and professional way and usually seems willing to cover Chinese hardware news without trying to dunk on evil CCP every time.
This looks like it was meant for HPC and not gaming
What really fucking gets me about this article is how they note that Moore already has a stack that can run cuda crap on it. This shit that AMD has not been able to pull their god damn heads out of their asses and do fully and completely for years, and here they already have it ready to go as they’re essentially at the beginning of the chinese homegrown gpu story. Like, this is something that’s going to be a decades long project, and they already have that critical part built. American computing is a fucking joke and should be burned to the ground.
Also, they’ve been doing this shit while under heavy sanctions regarding lithography tech from the EU and the USA government bodies. Imagine where they’d be if they weren’t. I’d put money that at their current rate of development, they’ll be able to achieve or exceed parity in both function and efficiency within the next decade.
I actually believe they got here so fast not despite, but thanks to the sanctions.
CUDA is proprietary and an open alternative exists. It is just that very little software is written in OpenCL.
I’m well aware. While I don’t personally work on the gpu related stuff, I do work at a company that has to do a lot of gpu computing. My opinions on this topic are mostly informed by coworkers who do write gpu code, specifically a lot of opencl kernels. opencl has a lot of shortcomings and issues, and the kernel model is a bitch to work with. However, that isn’t the point. The point is about compatibility. You can have a really good gpu but if you don’t have adversarial compatibility with your competitors, it will just die. Specifically, amd have done a shit job at making cuda run on amd gpus. rocm is a disjointed mess, it sucked when I had to work with it in uni, it still sucks now. Cuda is bad and proprietary, but any modern gpu should still be able to run cuda crap simply because it’s useful to be able to do so, and there’s a lot of things already built with it that should remain accessible.
The fact that amd have not been able to get a component as critical as their adversarial compatibility layer working while Moore has already implemented it for their early generation of cards shows:
- how profound the failures of amd and western computing companies is
- the breakneck pace and incredible technical achievements of chinese gpu development
It may also mean that Moore Threads has more legal freedom being Chinese to implement CUDA compatibility even if it infringes on Nvidia patents. Sometimes the limitations are legal rather than technical, either way AMD is in serious trouble if Moore Threads achieves sufficient CUDA compatibility
