west west bad big bad very bad stalin good lenin good ignore starvation ignore deaths ignore everything just read state and revolution bro

  • Diva (she/her)@lemmy.ml
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    Not until they lost their armies, but until they realized “Hey, unchecked power is intoxicating and war only leads to more war” and spit it out

    this is intense historical revisionism, they did not graciously hand over power, the risorgimento forcibly stripped it.

    pius ix called himself a prisoner of the vatican when italian troops took rome in 1870 and the papacy refused to recognize the italian state for sixty years.

    the Lateran Treaty with Mussolini was their reconciliation with losing

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      If the Church suddenly gained an army today, they would disband it.

      The Church has gone through a LOT of theological reformations and more findings since 1870. The Capture of Rome was forced, but most civillians

      and most of the members of the Church did not want to keep power.