so I started to see stuff on O&O ShutUp10++ that help disable most intrusive windows features, but it’s closed sorce, wondering if they are any open source alternatives? Shutup10 ++
You can generate your own “debloat” scripts with https://privacy.sexy
I think the project has a better chance than most at being relevant long-term for a number of reasons, but also the maintainer is a pretty cool person!
Check out Chris Titus’s one tool for Windows privacy debloat. It saved my sanity.
Ctt windows util tool runs O&O shutup. It’s a very good script cause it just runs everything and let you debloat to your hearts intent. I run it every time I need to make a windows machine.
Your one of two person to said this, and it looks to be open source so might go with this
obligatory: linux
I wish, Main game i play is windows exclusive, and as soon as they add Linux support or November 2025 hits I’m jumping ship
Which game? Linux can run a lot of Windows games these days.
Edit: I struggle to imagine why some people have downvoted this. Since doing so doesn’t help anyone at all, I encourage them to use their words instead.
Nope, not on steam. if it was I’d be long gone
Linux doesn’t need Steam to play Windows games. I won’t pester you to name your game if you don’t want to, though.
I know, Ment it the only game not on steam, otherwise I’d have no reason to stay on windows.
AS for the game it’s the buggy beautiful mess that is Star citizen, any guide I’ve found for Linux is borked is someway or another. Though the new Vulcan engine is supposed to make it more suitable for Linux over directx
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How does this answer the question?
I’m a little tired of this platform constantly shouting 24/7 about how we should all use Linux all the time, everything else is terrible, etc. Yes Linux is great, I use it a lot, I love it.
I don’t need it constantly shoved down my throat this way though. I especially don’t need it’s users to act all high and mighty and shame me for daring to still use Windows.
I know the pros and cons of using both and I use both for various different tasks. When somebody asks a question about Windows, just telling them to switch their entire operating system to Linux without knowing anything about their situation or why they use the OS they use isn’t answering the question, it’s not even trying to answer the question.
It’s just saying “you’re stupid for using Windows at all for any reason, and I refuse to engage with your actual question or try to help you at all, I’m just here to tell you you’re wrong, your personal life choices are bad and you should do what I do instead”.
I appreciate how great Linux is, but let’s not try to convert everybody to your way of life at every opportunity. Let people live their own lives and make their own choices, whether you agree with them or not, and if they ask a question, seek to answer it without shoehorning your own agenda in. That’s all I ask <3
It’s just saying “you’re stupid for using Windows at all for any reason, and I refuse to engage with your actual question or try to help you at all, I’m just here to tell you you’re wrong, your personal life choices are bad and you should do what I do instead”.
It’s a two-word response. Where is all the rest of this coming from? Do you need a cookie, a hug, a pinata, and maybe a nap?
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Vegans, Atheists, Linux… Fourth horseman is what?
Crossfit
well you can cross-fuck off.
Atheist? Um no, I think you mean Mormons.
Atheist rarely ever talk about atheism unless a religions mf is already trying to shove their shit down your throat.
Atheist don’t go knocking on your fucking door trying to spread the word of the not God.Not what I mean. Check out r/Atheism. It’s a particular brand of holier than thou, ironically, that I find insufferable.
edit: For those not excelling in reading comprehension, it’s about sanctimonity, being holier than thou, an insufferable asshole. Not unlike the way in which I am writing this.
Agree, but there’s a big chunk of atheist that like jerking each other off, vocally telling themselves how superior and smart they are. That’s the point being made
Yes. But not the majority and going to a dedicated community on Reddit is just asking for it. You’ll never have an atheist in the wild start blabbering on about how they don’t believe in God without engaging them first. Unlike mormons, vegans, etc. That’s my point.
I still disagree. Majority of topical subreddits and people are nowhere near as obnoxious. Although, granted, Reddit is a bad place to set bars on quality of discussion.
My standard response to “just go Linux” :
I keep having to say this, as much as I like Linux for certain things, as a desktop it’s still no competition to Windows, even with this awful shit going on.
As some background - I had my first UNIX class in about 1990. I wrote my first Fortran program on a Sperry Rand Univac (punched cards) in about 1985. Cobol was immediately after Fortran (wish I’d stuck with Cobol).
I run a Mint laptop. Power management is a joke. Configured as best as possible, walked in the other day and it was dead - as in battery at zero, won’t even boot. Windows would never do this, unless you went out of your way to config power management to kill the battery (even then, to really kill it you have to boot to BIOS and let it sit, Windows will not let a battery get to zero).
There no way even possible via the GUI to config power management for things like low/critical battery conditions /actions.
There are many reasons why Linux doesn’t compete with Windows on the desktop - this is just one glaring one.
Now let’s look at Office. Open an Excel spreadsheet with tables in any app other than excel. Tables are something that’s just a given in excel, takes 10 seconds to setup, and you get automatic sorting and filtering, with near-zero effort. The devs of open office refuse to support tables, saying “you should manage data in a proper database app”. No, I’m not setting up a DB in an open-source competitor to Access. That’s just too much effort for simple sorting and filtering tasks, and isn’t realistically shareable with other people. I do this several times a day in excel.
Now there’s that print monitor that’s on by default, and can only be shut up by using a command line. Wtf? In the 21st century?
Networking… Yea, samba works, but how do you clear creds you used one time to connect to a share, even though you didn’t say “save creds”? Oh, yea, command line again or go download an app to clear them for for you. Smh.
Oh, you have a wireless Logitech mouse? Linux won’t even recognize it. You have to search for a solution and go find a download that makes it work. My brand new wireless mouse works on any version of windows since 2000, at the least, and would probably work on Win95.
Someone else said it better than me:
Every time I’ve installed Linux as my main OS (many, many times since I was younger), it gets to an eventual point where every single thing I want to do requires googling around to figure out problems. While it’s gotten much better, I always ended up reinstalling Windows or using my work Mac. Like one day I turn it on and the monitor doesn’t look right. So I installed twenty things, run some arbitrary collection of commands, and it works… only it doesn’t save my preferences.
So then I need to dig into .bashrc or .bash_profile (is bashrc even running? Hey let me investigate that first for 45 minutes) and get the command to run automatically… but that doesn’t work, so now I can’t boot… so I have to research (on my phone now, since the machine deathscreens me once the OS tries to load) how to fix that… then I am writing config lines for my specific monitor so it can access the native resolution… wait, does the config delimit by spaces, or by tabs?? anyway, it’s been four hours, it’s 3:00am and I’m like Bryan Cranston in that clip from Malcolm in the Middle where he has a car engine up in the air all because he tried to change a lightbulb.
And then I get a new monitor, and it happens all damn over again. Oh shit, I got a new mouse too, and the drivers aren’t supported - great! I finally made it to Friday night and now that I have 12 minutes away from my insane 16 month old, I can’t wait to search for some drivers so I can get the cursor acceleration disabled. Or enabled. Or configured? What was I even trying to do again? What led me to this?
I just can’t do it anymore. People who understand it more than I will downvote and call me an idiot, but you can all kiss my ass because I refuse to do the computing equivalent of building a radio out of coconuts on a deserted island of ancient Linux forum posts because I want to have Spotify open on startup EVERY time and not just one time. I have tried to get into Linux as a main dev environment since 1997 and I’ve loved/liked/loathed it, in that order, every single time.
I respect the shit out of the many people who are far, far smarter than me who a) built this stuff, and 2) spend their free time making Windows/Mac stuff work on a Linux environment, but the part of me who liked to experiment with Linux has been shot and killed and left to rot in a ditch along the interstate.
Now I love Linux for my services: Proxmox, UnRAID, TrueNAS, containers for Syncthing, PiHole, Owncloud/NextCloud, CasaOS/Yuno, etc, etc. I even run a few Windows VM’s on Linux (Proxmox) because that’s better than running Linux VM’s of a Windows server.
Linux is brilliant for this stuff. Just not brilliant for a desktop, let alone in a business environment.
Linux doesn’t even use a common shell (which is a good thing in it’s own way), and that’s a massive barrier for users.
If it were 40 years ago, maybe Linux would’ve had a chance to beat MS, even then it would’ve required settling on a single GUI (which is arguably half of why Windows became a standard, the other half being a common API), a common build (so the same tools/utilities are always available), and a commitment to put usability for the inexperienced user first.
These are what MS did in the 1980’s to make Windows attractive to the 3 groups who contend with desktops: developers, business management, end users.
All this without considering the systems management requirements of even an SMB with perhaps a dozen users (let alone an enterprise with tens of thousands).
This is by far the worst take I’ve seen on the topic. Sorry for being rude, but it sounds like you haven’t touched a computer since that last time in 1990.
Power management is a joke
Surprise, it’s 2024 and windows will obliterate the battery even after you turn off the machine.
There no way even possible via the GUI to config power management for things like low/critical battery conditions /actions.
There is, though it’s via dconf, but it’s justified as it’s a thing few people would want to tweak.
Open an Excel spreadsheet with tables in any app other than excel
Sounds like an excel problem to me
Tables are something that’s just a given in excel, takes 10 seconds to setup, and you get automatic sorting and filtering, with near-zero effort
I don’t use either, but I’m pretty sure filter views are available in libreoffice calc. Open source DB’s and Access? What are you talking about, exactly?
Now there’s that print monitor that’s on by default
The what now? Are you talking about CUPS daemon?
systemctl stop cups && systemctl disable cups. Enjoy your 2.5megs of ram back at a cost of not being able to print anything. Now try and do that on windows without bricking your system.and can only be shut up by using a command line. Wtf? In the 21st century?
If you insist on needing a GUI, go ham. But don’t you diss the command line. Being able to do things without GUI is anything but a con.
Yea, samba works, but how do you clear creds you used one time to connect to a share, even though you didn’t say “save creds”?
That’s notoriously a windows problem, not a linux one. You must be misremembering it
Oh, you have a wireless Logitech mouse? Linux won’t even recognize it
Not recognize it like, not being picked up by xinput, or not even listed in lsusb? I haven’t ever heard of non-class-compliant mouse. Is that something to do with the G-Hub thingamajig? If so, that’s on logitech, not linux.
My brand new wireless mouse works on any version of windows since 2000, at the least, and would probably work on Win95
No, it won’t. If linux didn’t pick it up without a driver, then win95 won’t either. And it’s even worse in reverse. I have a bunch of old hardware that won’t ever work on modern windows because the last drivers released are for WinXP, which are not compatible nor even portable to subsequent versions. All of them are plug-n-play on linux, though.
Linux doesn’t even use a common shell
Huh? You mean the desktop environments? The shell is a thing very few people ever care about.
If it were 40 years ago, maybe Linux would’ve had a chance to beat MS, even then it would’ve required settling on a single GUI (which is arguably half of why Windows became a standard, the other half being a common API), a common build (so the same tools/utilities are always available), and a commitment to put usability for the inexperienced user first.
The overwhelming majority of systems are either in GNOME/GTK or KDE/Qt ecosystem, unless you really know what you’re doing and want to go with something completely different. But even then, there’s a lot of re-use or re-implementation of components from one or the other. It’s great to have this choice. Sure, it can be a hassle if components from one don’t play nice with another. But then, you’re comparing it to windows, that uses components from 3 distinct eras, that don’t really work together either.
Skill issue
My Dell XPS 13 (Windows) will kill it’s battery if you look at it funny… Or don’t look at it at all.
One time, I fully shut down the laptop and put it in my carry-on.
When I took it out after my flight, my bag was suspiciously warm and the battery was fully dead. Power management on Linux might be a joke but Dell is certainly the Carlos Mencía of the comedy club. At least I know my enemy now though. I unplug the battery to turn it ‘off’.
Imagine running this voluntarily instead of using an operating system that doesn’t treat you as hostiles.
Guys we found the Linux user (I use arch btw)
Arch ftw
It’s in my profile.
I’m joking duh
