I often see people in the comments acting like having a fast or loud car immediately makes your dick smaller or that you have ED. And people talk about owning a car as if they’ve never gone above 40 MPH and are terrified to do so.

For context I live in a city with actually ok mass transit, don’t own a car, and prefer to bike/take the train whenever possible. Trains, trolleys, bikes, and feet are the best forms of transportation imo.

That being said, body shaming or making fun of people with physical or mental issues (that may be no fault of their own) is just shitty. It makes this community look shitty. I hate reading comments about “loud car small dick this” or “fast car ED that”. It’s unnecessary. You can shit on asshole drivers without having to stoop that low. Secondly, some women enjoy cars as well; be more creative.

Finally, don’t act like cars can’t be fun. I’m all for phasing out the automobile and revolutionizing transport by returning to the ways of olde, but cars are fun. I understand some of you are grandparents and don’t like someone revving their straight pipes mustang down your block on a Saturday morning. That’s completely reasonable. But my god does this community act like you can’t have fun in a car. I absolutely enjoy loud and fast and powerful cars, because that’s an incredible work of engineering and it simply can be fun. Going fast can be fun. Being in a car that purrs like a lion can be fun. Going offroading or drifting or racing or anything in a car can be fun.

We won’t convince people to see our side by shitting on the things they enjoy. We convince people to try and see things from our point of view by actually looking through their perspective first, and acknowledging that while cars can be fun they are not sustainable.

ETA: Some people seem to think I think public roads should still be for cars. Never did I say that. I think the appropriate place for cars is the track. I would love to convert all the roads in my city to a mixture of bike and pedestrian lanes with trolleys running down the median. But cars can be fun and a track day can absolutely be a great time.

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    Removing comment because I feel like I am just contributing to misinformation and I don’t want to unleash baseless speculation about a community based on a silly thought I came up with as a joke, and not a serious point.

    Edit to add clarification

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    Having a loud car is literally one of the most asshole things you can do.

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    Yeah this place can be a bit vitriolic tbh. The body shaming is cringe and should be addressed (thanks for addressing it). I am also of the opinion that cars are very cool and fun in the right setting as well as being fascinating from an engineering perspective. Perhaps we should call eachother out on these things more? I think more people would listen if we didn’t seem like we just hated cars for being cars

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    I mean, look, I come in here and argue with these guys all the time, but the sub ain’t called “I politely disagree with cars”.

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      but the sub ain’t called “I politely disagree with cars”.

      How often have you gotten your penis stuck in the exhaust? Titles should rarely be taken literally.

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    Always remember: when you criticize someone for a characteristic they have you criticize all members of that group whether you intend to or otherwise.

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    If we replace “small dicks” with “sociopathic tendencies and pitiful personalities”, will you still complain?

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    “Fuck cars” is an easy statement to make in NYC.

    “Fuck cars” isn’t a very serious statement to make in the middle of Oklahoma.

    We all know why, which is why this is a joke sub. You can’t have zero cars. The world outside of Queens isn’t an endless sea of more buildings and bus stops, I’m sorry. Read a map.

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    I absolutely enjoy loud and fast and powerful cars

    You know, I like dinosaurs. But I wouldn’t want one roaming the streets.

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    Usually I get shit for pointing out that US urban areas continue to be built as if everyone is expected to drive their own car, and automotive lobbyists still discourage public transit projects and reducing parking requirements.

    And this continuation of policies that maximize car dependency not only exacerbates the climate crisis, but the tires spread microplastics everywhere, usually with single people driving Canyonero style vehicles.

    Some people in this community really, really like their cars.

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    Nobody above the 95 IQ range owns or enjoys loud vehicles.

    I throw small to medium sized rocks at parked cars because they leave the types of damage that could plausibly just have happened from daily driving. It’s a great way to drive car owners slowly insane and to further the agenda of the Fuck Cars community.

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      You either really missed the point of the post, or are real bad at being funny. Least nuanced takes on the platform

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        I throw big rocks because I hate literally everyone and everything. You all fucking ruined my life, I want to destroy everything everyone else cares about.

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    Maybe you want a community that isn’t fucking called “fuck cars”. Seriously. If you don’t like it, that’s a you thing. Nobody is making you come here.

    Edit: With you on body shaming, same as I would about homophobia or classism. But that’s ancillary to the point you’re making.

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    I support a Car Free Society, I dont want to have to drive anywhere if I dont want to, the thought of getting on a train or tram and being able to read a book or meditate fills me with Unbridled Joy. Yet at the same time, when i do drive on roadtrips, I like to have a spotter and road reports ready and tear if up going well over 100 mph on the Interstate most of the way there, I have an EV and leap frog between charging stations, and found that if i keep it over 90 I get better efficiencies ( using less Electricity ) making it even more environmentally friendly. I LOVE driving, but having to do it just to get by in modern society is a real drag…

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        At those speeds it cuts travel time drastically and the regenerative braking goes into overdrive recharching the batteries if you are going slower than 90 mph you are better off keeping it below 55 mph to achieve maximum efficiencies.

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          Sorry man… I hate to break (brake?) it to you but there are no EVs in existence that can get the charge back into the battery as fast as you can get it out. Some systems dissipate the excess kinetic energy into heat using ‘braking resistors’, while others simply disable Regen to the usually sudden surprise of the driver (looking at you Tesla and Toyota), and kinetic energy gets lost as heat via brake pads.

          Also, https://www.shouldispeed.com/

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            Of course it doesnt that would be perpetual motion lol. When you let off the accelerator it recharges the battery, i can go whole drives without ever touching the brake pedal. And all of that energy goes back into the battery. Elon is a cunt, but he didnt build my Car, the workers at Tesla did that. Its a great machine and a pleasure to drive, but I would sell it in a heart beat if I didnt need it to survive.

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              You’re missing what I’m saying. Because you cannot get that energy back into the pack very fast due to thermal constraints (there is a maximum rate one can recharge any battery, depending on the pack’s particular cell chemistry), you’re dumping quite a bit of energy when braking. Less energy loss than traditional car brakes, but still a good fraction without getting capacitors into the design.

              Going over 100 is absolutely stupid, drag forces increase with the square of speed. Driving that way in a car is dangerous to everyone else, and the attempt at a physics based justification is just wrong.

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                Well if I’m forced to drive I will continue tear it up on the freeway, sorry not sorry, but funnily enough, I am writing this comment while riding glorious light rail in a robust Metro system. If i have to drive Im gonna have fun doing it, and get to my destination as quick as physically possible.

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                  Yep, that’s that attitude which has resulted in this community being created.

                  I’ve got my share of speeding tickets as we all do, but be reasonable. The energy in an impact goes up with the square of velocity… 3x faster means 9x the impact energy, and you’re driving a particularly heavy vehicle. It might not even be your fault if something goes wrong.

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    End small-dick hatred. Body shaming isn’t okay no matter what.

    For every lifted coal roller, there is a small-dicked, eco conscious bicyclist.

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    Agree with the body shaming, plenty of shit drivers across the spectrum. Don’t care so much about cars being fun as a means to justify their prevalence. But to acknowledge the counter argument of the culture we seek to criticize does have its merits in effective debate.

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      That argument wasn’t to justify their prevalence, but moreso that refusing to acknowledge it won’t get us anywhere. See edit for more info

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    I don’t go for making fun of people’s imagined dicks or sexual performance. Seems immature and bundled with problematic paradigms.

    People can have fun with cars, true. People can have fun with anything. The problem is cars are everywhere and not limited to fun places. like if people had a “cover yourself in honey” fetish and just went everywhere covered in honey, demanded honey dispensers everywhere, got everything sticky, and started wars over honeybees. I don’t care how much fun they’re having , they’re making everything worse for everyone else.

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      See the edit to the post. I’m not advocating for cars everywhere. But people in this community seem to believe that cars simply shouldn’t exist.

      Twinkies are horrible for you and evidence of the sin of capitalism, but that doesn’t mean they aren’t tasty and nice as an occasional treat. If capitalism didn’t exist they probably wouldn’t exist, but I’d still make Twinkies if we had star trek replicators.

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        But people in this community seem to believe that cars simply shouldn’t exist.

        I don’t think most people genuinely believe cars should exist for no one. I think some posts here are hyperbolic, like when you say “I’m going to kill my brother for stealing my Pokemon cards”, you don’t really mean it. It’s an emotional outlet.

        Most people I’ve seen recognize that lowering car usage makes it easier for when you do need to drive (for accessibility or moving or whatever, not so much for fun)

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          I’ve had people on fuckcars argue that delivery trucks shouldn’t exist at all, that it should just be handled by a fleet of people on cargo bicycles. I can’t understand how people don’t understand the scale of the economy and the distances and weight of deliveries.

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            Delivering a couch from a warehouse in NJ to an apartment in Queens via bike sounds challenging.

            I’m glad most food delivery here is by bike and not car, though.