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That’s a great question, with a lot of possibilities for insightful discussion. You appear to be referencing interrogation footage of the Parkland high school shoo

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That’s not true. I’ll always be here to talk.

I’ll. Always. Be here.

You’re all good, m8.

This was in Vancouver, m8.

The FIFA Board of Peace directed by Donald Trump.

“If humans are so intelligent, why did they let me chase them into my murder chamber? Riddle me that, liberals!”

probably because you are malnourished.

So you’re just trying to pivot to nutrition as a smokescreen because you know you look bad. You can always tell someone hasn’t touched nutritional literature in the last 20 years when they throw out rhetoric like this.

I’m sorry that I’m not malnourished; I’m just over here enjoying my ~25% lowered risk of ischemic heart disease.

No, it sounds to me like they just got embarrassed and stopped being honest about it.

also why did it take you so long to tell us you are vegan

“How do you know someone’s vegan? It’ll come up organically and we’ll still berate them for saying it anyway because the whole ‘they’ll tell you’ thing was always a bad-faith thought-terminating cliché.”

I don’t think I really care to be lectured about how to use language from someone who unironically throws around the word “woke”.

Edit: By the way, just curious about applying “emotive human terms” and where the boundaries are: why did dairy farmers and animal researchers call artificial insemination chutes “rape racks”? Where was their compunction then? Is it only problematic when terms like “rape” aren’t used for “humorous” alliteration?

ok

sounds hot

meet me at 5:00

What are you even talking about? The fact that you’re calling it “woke” tells me that there’s no productive conversation to be had with you. You’re saying in obvious bad-faith that calling the intentional killing of a living, sentient being for pleasure “murder” is equating killing e.g. a cow with killing a human child, but that’s obviously ridiculous; there are degrees of severity to morally wrong actions.

You do this all the time; everyone does this all the time. If I see somebody kick a harmless dog, I’d call that “abuse”; you wouldn’t come up and start lecturing me about how “woke” I’m being because I’m diminishing human victims of abuse who are brutally beaten, starved, etc. by their family members.

any longer than necessary

“Any longer than necessary” is literally any suffering in this context because it’s wholly superfluous. Even on that note, if I walked outside today and were killed by a skilled marksman, I probably wouldn’t feel a single thing; that’s still not “humane” because it still didn’t need to happen.

but I also eat meat, so I’m in no real place to judge.

No, I really think you are and that meat eaters resign themselves too quickly to this attitude to resolve the cognitive dissonance and avoid feeling hypocritical. I’m vegan and haven’t used animal products for years, but I didn’t drop everything one day. I thought “huh, you know, killing cows and pigs for no real reason seems kind of fucked up.” This extended to chickens and then extended to fish as I increasingly realized I was using the same excuses. I look back and realize how hypocritical I was being at each stage, but it still made me work toward change.

Never putting yourself in a place to judge is putting yourself in a place where you’re perpetually stuck.

So you are entirely unaware that a large part of organic evolution on this planet has proceeded by species predation.

A large part of organic evolution on this planet has proceeded by rape. Why do I care when considering human ethics? This appeal to nature is always flimsily brought out, and it’s always obviously fallacious.

Or are you aware of it but are simply sliding the definition of words to a disgusting degree to make woke points.

Oops, you dropped the w-word; I’m sorry nobody here can take you seriously anymore, although the rest of your comment is just strawmanning garbage not worth addressing in the first place.

Edit: I guess Lemmy doesn’t find it even a little strange that they’re siding with an ideology that power over others justifies cruelty and that opposition to that is “woke”.

If we want to reduce animal cruelty, look towards the massive scale of factory farming

How about not rounding up hundreds of highly intelligent beings and their families to murder them for no reason. And don’t give me your whataboutist bullshit about “muh factory farms”; I don’t use those either. 9 times out of 10, the people I see citing factory farms in cases like this deliberately use factory farms all the time and simply want an excuse for inaction. Shit like this needs to end too and can trivially end.

These are animals that have lived free, beautiful lives in their natural habitats.

So are you, so come here. We’ll just chase you into an alley, put a hook through your nose, and cut your spine; no deliberate cruelty involved (besides the deliberate, brutal, totally superfluous murder).

how humanely is it done

You can’t “humanely” murder a living, sentient being with emotions and the capacity to feel fear and pain who doesn’t want to die. (Along with their family in the case of the Grind.)

and is all the meat eaten by locals.

You know, I’ve never seen “but your honor, I ate the entire body” used as a mitigating factor at a murder trial, but you do you, boo.

This is (I assume) what The Independent is referencing in the subheader. “Push to ban the hunts” would mean putting pressure on the Faroe Islands to ban it.