Okay that makes so much sense, because I knew I had calling before in Element but they wanted me to set up all this extra stuff. Is it still a thing to do the plugin?

Wait there’s a jitsi plugin?

Element on Matrix is the only one I’m aware of - but it’s not the easiest to set up. I would try creating an account on matrix.org’s server just temporarily to try it out and see if it fits what you’re looking for. I like the decentralized nature of it, but the support is very piecemeal, and onboarding people essentially needs a class.

Yeah that’s where it turned from story to joke for me

Thought is good, but if life has taught me anything it’s that it’s only a matter of time until someone new takes over and uses it for their nefarious purposes. Forcing it is never a good option, it should be opt in

Damn this is insane. Using claude/cursor for work is near, but they have a mode literally called “yolo mode” which is this. Agents allowed to run whatever code they like, which is insane. I allow it to do basic things, you can search the repo and read code files, but goddamn allowing it to do whatever it wants? Hard no

What’s sad is I’m doing moderately okay I would say on the coast - and I know I am far out of reach of getting any of those tax cuts. They have no idea how much they’re getting duped to think that they’re even remotely close to getting anything.

I heard good jobs are too woke

As an aside, I have that coffee maker and love it! See if there’s a local coffee shop, here in my city it was stocked and they even let me try a cup from there

Oh as an aside, the coffee comes out SUPER weak at the beginning, where I thought it was broken. Give it 20-30 shots/cups and it’ll start tasting more normal. I’ve had mine for 3 years now and love it

Honestly they all suck

Holy setup batman. Was thinking it was going to be another container I spin up, but it’s enabling kernel modules, needs IOMMU, needs a ton of setup and then it looks like you still have to compile it? For now at least that’s above my needs

Lawyers and marketers who refuse to see nuance and view everything as a potential threat

I think part of life is learning that there’s nothing wrong with living a simple/normal life, and that there is a beauty in it too.

but the vast majority of crawlers don’t care to do that. That’s a very specific implementation for this one problem. I actually did work at a big scraping farm, and if they encounter something like this,they just give up. It’s not worth it to them. That’s where the “worthiness” check is, you didn’t bother to do anything to gain access.

Great, other companies have thought the same and they’re sheepishly realizing that’s not realistic. Let us know how it goes

That’s counting on one machine using the same cookie session continuously, or they code up a way to share the tokens across machines. That’s now how the bot farms work

I was a single server with only me and 2 others or so, and then saw that I had thousands of requests per minutes at times! Absolutely nuts! My cloud bill was way higher. Adding anubis and it dropped down to just our requests, and bills dropped too. Very very strong proponent now.

This dance to get access is just a minor annoyance for me, but I question how it proves I’m not a bot. These steps can be trivially and cheaply automated.

I don’t think the author understands the point of Anubis. The point isn’t to block bots completely from your site, bots can still get in. The point is to put up a problem at the door to the site. This problem, as the author states, is relatively trivial for the average device to solve, it’s meant to be solved by a phone or any consumer device.

The actual protection mechanism is scale, the scale of this solving solution is costly. Bot farms aren’t one single host or machine, they’re thousands, tens of thousands of VMs running in clusters constantly trying to scrape sites. So to them, a calculating something that trivial is simple once, very very costly at scale. Say calculating the hash once takes about 5 seconds. Easy for a phone. Let’s say that’s 1000 scrapes of your site, that’s now 5000 seconds to scrape, roughly an hour and a half. Now we’re talking about real dollars and cents lost. Scraping does have a cost, and having worked at a company that does professionally scrape content they know this. Most companies will back off after trying to load a page that takes too long, or is too intensive - and that is why we see the dropoff in bot attacks. It’s that it’s not worth it for them to scrape the site anymore.

So for Anubis they’re “judging your value” by saying “Are you willing to put your money where your mouth is to access this site?” For consumer it’s a fraction of a fraction of a penny in electricity spent for that one page load, barely noticeable. For large bot farms it’s real dollars wasted on my little lemmy instance/blog, and thankfully they’ve stopped caring.

Check out Anubis. If you have a reverse proxy it is very easy to add, and for the bots stopped spamming after I added it to mine

Oh, oh no no no it wasn’t