Are you guys allowed to defend yourself against them in Australia? I’m not familiar with your laws, but if security doesn’t have the authority of the actual police, then fuck em up.
I think you’d probably have decent odds in court if they did unjustly lay hands on you and you defended yourself, at least if you’re white. You’d need to prove you had valid reasons for defending yourself, and that you didn’t use more than the least amount needed, but they’d also need to prove they did the same. I imagine the courts would have a hard time accepting that tackling and dragging an elderly person is a reasonable use of force, but crazier things have happened
If you inflict “death or serious harm” then no - you cannot be protected under self defence laws (in the NT, not sure about other states).
If you just rough them up a little bit… then yes, there is a self defence provision that will protect you. But only if you get a fair trial, and if your skin is black then you probably won’t get a fair trial - especially in that region of the country. If you call the cops, they’re probably even worse than the security guards.
Are you guys allowed to defend yourself against them in Australia? I’m not familiar with your laws, but if security doesn’t have the authority of the actual police, then fuck em up.
I think you’d probably have decent odds in court if they did unjustly lay hands on you and you defended yourself, at least if you’re white. You’d need to prove you had valid reasons for defending yourself, and that you didn’t use more than the least amount needed, but they’d also need to prove they did the same. I imagine the courts would have a hard time accepting that tackling and dragging an elderly person is a reasonable use of force, but crazier things have happened
Edit: obligatory IANAL
Thank you. I wasn’t sure. I didn’t want to assume something and find out there is a specific law in place.
If you inflict “death or serious harm” then no - you cannot be protected under self defence laws (in the NT, not sure about other states).
If you just rough them up a little bit… then yes, there is a self defence provision that will protect you. But only if you get a fair trial, and if your skin is black then you probably won’t get a fair trial - especially in that region of the country. If you call the cops, they’re probably even worse than the security guards.