• Five@slrpnk.netOP
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      For the money laundering and human trafficking that he specifically was not accused of?

      Cryptocurrency is the enemy of privacy, and its use in this situation would increase the appearance of illegality, possibly opening up the accused to tax fraud allegations. Advocating for its use by people who can’t afford to lose thousands of dollars in a pyramid scheme is absurd.

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        Monero is the best friend to privacy. Although I would agree that most crypto is definitely the enemy of privacy, Monero is specifically built to be the friend of privacy.

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          Monero is still built on the blockchain. Using Monero for privacy is like playing casino blackjack as a monetary investment because the odds are better than the lottery.

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            Yes, it is built on a blockchain. It’s a blockchain specifically designed to completely hide the sender of a transaction, the recipient of said transaction, and the amount of that transaction. And cannot be even broken with quantum computing.

            Edit: I should stand corrected. Parts of it are already quantum proof. Other parts can still be unraveled with a quantum computer, but there is work already in progress to fix that for future transactions.

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                Cryptography (math) papers, are, in fact, the source of all truth.

                If you don’t like crypto it’s okay, but don’t spread undocumented fear.

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                  Maybe that’s why there so little overlap between respected cryptography researchers and crypto developers?

                  If you like tipping sex workers online it’s okay, but don’t spread a documented scam.

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            The word “investors” is the problem here.

            The word is crypto"currency". The goal would be to completely replace traditional currency.

            Your job pays you in crypto, you pay your electric bill in crypto, you pay your mortgage in crypto, you pay your car payment in crypto, you save in crypto, you buy your Starbucks in crypto. You sell your old game system for crypto, etc.

            When you completely give up on the traditional system and value your life in crypto, your life gets better.

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              Why bitcoin is worse than a Madoff-style Ponzi scheme by Robert McCauley

              Brazilian computer scientist Jorge Stolfi is one voice who has contended this. His view is based on the following observations:

              1. Investors buy in the expectation of profits.
              2. That expectation is sustained by the profits of those that cash out.
              3. But there is no external source for those profits; they come entirely from new investments.
              4. And the operators take away a large portion of the money.

              All of this rings true true. But in calling bitcoin a Ponzi scheme, critics are arguably being too kind on two counts. First, bitcoin doesn’t have the same endgame as a Ponzi scheme. Second, it constitutes a deeply negative sum game from a broad social perspective.

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                  Bitcoin = Monero in your mind. They aren’t the same, not even close.

                  LOL. I understand they are very different entities.

                  Bitcoin Monero
                  Proof of work Proof of work
                  Uses a blockchain ledger Uses a blockchain ledger
                  Extremely volatile exchange rate Extremely volatile exchange rate
                  Unregulated Unregulated
                  Price easily manipulated by wealthy investors Price easily manipulated by wealthy investors
                  “HODL” - unrealistic expectation that the endgame is general use as currency “HODL” - unrealistic expectation that the endgame is general use as currency
                  Heavily driven by FOMO Heavily driven by FOMO
                  Uses obscene amount of energy per coin Aspires to use an obscene amount of energy per coin to prevent another 51% attack
                  Ledger has become so large it is unwieldy to store and transfer Ledger 200+ GiB, constantly expanding
                  Represents an ecological catastrope A currently smaller part of the ecological catastrope
                  Most popular currency used to facilitate human trafficking Has features that should make it more attractive for use in human trafficking
                  Difficult and annoying to use Even more difficult and annoying to use
                  Available on most cryptocurrency exchanges Available on fewer exchanges
                  Claimed by early proponents that transactions were ‘anonymous’ but now frequently the subject of blockchain analysis Proponents claim transactions to be anonymous
                  Pre-mining began January 2009 Pre-mining began April 2014
                  Advocates behave like people in an MLM cult Advocates behave like people in an MLM cult
                  Represents the vain hope to individually escape catastrophe while the world burns by using theoretically clever but practically unworkable technological solutions that create further social problems, while the real, difficult though not intractable social problems of government abuse, economic instability, and authoritarianism continue to increase because resources for real social solutions are starved of resources Represents the vain hope to individually escape catastrophe while the world burns by using theoretically clever but practically unworkable technological solutions that create further social problems, while the real, difficult though not intractable social problems of government abuse, economic instability, and authoritarianism continue to increase because resources for real social solutions are starved of resources
                  $116,760 / coin $270 / coin
                  20M coins 18.5M coins
                  Logo is a circle with the letter “B” Logo is a circle with the letter “M”

                  One of the hilarious details I discovered while researching this is that according to the US Government Accountability Office report “Use of Online Marketplaces and Virtual Currencies in Drug and Human Trafficking” in 2022,

                  Representatives of two analytics firms and one exchange also noted that illicit actors use privacy coins less frequently, as they are more difficult to obtain and are supported by fewer exchanges compared to Bitcoin, making it difficult to convert funds to government-issued currency.

                  So whatever benefits Monero claims to have in protecting the privacy of illicit activities, the people who could face real time in jail don’t consider the benefits worth how extremely annoying it is to use.

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                Well, if Lord Robert McCauley says it, it must be true. I am truly humbled by your superior intellect and ability to determine a currency from a Ponzi scheme by citing essays that have nothing to do with Monero. Goodbye.

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                I think what you, and the people you believed, are making one wrong fundamental assumption (and I read it as your main point), which is “to evalute crypto currency one must compare it against fiat money”.