• DarkCloud@lemmy.world
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    22 hours ago

    Yeah, and currently people seem to think that Gavin Newsome would be anything other than a stock standard Democrat if he manages to win a 2028 Presidential bid (if the US even has an election).

    But it’s all just Social Media “clap back” and talking points. Obviously it’s better to have a contender willing to do that, but he’s unlikely to be much more than Biden 2.0.

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      10 hours ago

      Gavin Newsom is basically George Bush 3

      the Dems of today are closer to 1990s Republicans than 2020s Republicans are

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        Not even close, if that were true then they’d have support of the private prison industry, but they don’t, Trump has completely polarized crime and all of the prison complex supports him and only him.

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      22 hours ago

      True, but the whole “if we have elections” part is why I’ll back Newsom for now. Though I’m hoping a more socialist candidate gets the nomination.

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        Backing Newsom instead of demanding better is how Democrats will lose the election once again. Kamala didn’t lose because she was black or a woman. She lost because she pushed a centrist line. And supposedly Kamala was the last hope to have elections in 2028, so I’m not sure how this line of thinking works.

        Especially at this point when nothing is locked in I don’t understand why people are capitulating against their own interests already.

        At this point only the Democratic Socialists of America seems to have any standards within the Democratic party and the Dems are actively working against DSA as hard as possible. I’d be curious who the DSA would want to run as president though.

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            They haven’t had enough senate seats to have a hand in anything for over a decade. 48 or less for 6 consecutive whole congresses.

            The opposition is literally killing people.