On reddit, for my criticism of the Democratic Party, I am often censored on liberal spaces besides r/50501.
I follow the rules always, I cite sources, I am polite, and I am a US citizen. I am not influenced by Russian propaganda (to the best of my knowledge), and I’d like to say I have decent stances; I advocate for nonviolence and human rights, and generally advocate for progress and civility.
The “trolls” (I do my best to always assume good faith) here have nowhere near as much power here on the fediverse as on reddit.
On reddit, once you block someone, it shuts down discussion completely. Users there strategically block after their first rebuttal to prevent any of your responses from showing up and to gain the last word. I often waste time researching and typing a response, only to find out I was blocked and my response is only showing up for me. The only way to get around this is to edit your comments from before they blocked you, and it is very awkward (and usually results in lots of downvotes when you can’t properly respond to someone calling you a Russian troll).
If OP blocks you, you get kicked from the thread completely. You can neither see the thread after that point, nor respond to anyone else. Even your comments on the thread are invisible on your user profile (so unless you do voodoo and find the comment permalink, it’s difficult to edit your comment with a response).
Mods also abuse automod to trick you into thinking your posts or comments are showing up for others (like setting it to remove everything for a specific user). They do this to avoid accountability when they can’t easily explain what rule you broke or when mods censor based on ideological grounds. I also get censored automatically by automod often and find that my posts or comments don’t show up randomly - presumably I hit automod filters, but I still worry every single time that my account is shadowbanned.
If automod and the blocking functionality isn’t abused, any divergent opinion or perspective gets completely buried by downvotes. Like me pointing out how rigged things are for progressives (it’s hard for me to stomach people acting like the Democrats need to move right because progressive policies are “extremely unpopular”).
Anyway, moderation has been very fair here to me, I just want others to know that reddit is completely busted for healthy discourse and some of the tricks users and mods use to create echo chambers.
Congratulations, you and people like you convinced 8 Million DNC voters to stay home in 2024, now Trump is president and a Fox News host with white supremacist tattoos is head of the DoD and pushing for the death or exodus of every single Palestinian, Israel put tanks on the ground in Gaza for the first time in two decades and started bombing Rafah with weapons that the DNC withheld previously. Blood is on your hands.
My impact was nil. Did you not read my post? I get censored and buried.
If you want someone to blame, look within, and tell the Democrats to do the same.
Running a rushed campaign with no substantive policies, tirelessly lying about tirelessly working for a ceasefire, appealing to the right, not holding primaries, pushing a senile, self-proclaimed Zionist (Biden) until the last minute (who supported the genocide unquestionably) surely didn’t have anything to do with the loss.
Point is, there are a lot more than 8 million untapped voters. 1/3 of the country doesn’t vote. Encourage Democrats to tap into that demographic, and pressure genocidal states just a little bit. It’d go a long way.
Again, that image quotes the exact same Israeli, and there is no link to any article or anything by this Israeli news channel from there so…
You also have top Biden officials making the opposite claim that they did try everything, short of full withdrawal of support which was never going to happen because Israel is an irreplaceable asset to the US Military in the region, to bring about a ceasefire and that Netanyahu was dragging it out for the US Elections. There are quotes from staffers that old man Biden would swear at Netanyahu over the phone. There is a quote from Trump that Biden was withholding shipments of large bombs that were already paid for, shipments that Trump immediately pushed through.
And aides reveal that Biden essentially wasn’t running the country, but his administration sure shipped out a lot of bombs to support the war against women and children.
Regardless, I already know that you and I will likely not see eye to eye from past observance of your postings, and that’s fine. You can imagine blood on my hands, and that’s also fine. I did not mention the issue overseas directly once more than a handful of times in my postings until after the election, because I wanted to believe the Biden administration would shift after the tens of thousands of civilian deaths.
Bottom line, do you think the Democratic party should continue to be coddled, with all criticism silenced, while they have no winning strategy and even major donors have lost confidence?
It’s a lot of energy to invest in a discourse that is being oppositionally refereed. Under better circumstances I’d say it was laudable, and on Lemmy the effort is certainly less wasted, but I’m starting to wonder if maybe the better part of our energies are better spent on in-person political efforts.
On reddit, for my criticism of the Democratic Party, I am often censored on liberal spaces besides r/50501.
I follow the rules always, I cite sources, I am polite, and I am a US citizen. I am not influenced by Russian propaganda (to the best of my knowledge), and I’d like to say I have decent stances; I advocate for nonviolence and human rights, and generally advocate for progress and civility.
The “trolls” (I do my best to always assume good faith) here have nowhere near as much power here on the fediverse as on reddit.
On reddit, once you block someone, it shuts down discussion completely. Users there strategically block after their first rebuttal to prevent any of your responses from showing up and to gain the last word. I often waste time researching and typing a response, only to find out I was blocked and my response is only showing up for me. The only way to get around this is to edit your comments from before they blocked you, and it is very awkward (and usually results in lots of downvotes when you can’t properly respond to someone calling you a Russian troll).
If OP blocks you, you get kicked from the thread completely. You can neither see the thread after that point, nor respond to anyone else. Even your comments on the thread are invisible on your user profile (so unless you do voodoo and find the comment permalink, it’s difficult to edit your comment with a response).
Mods also abuse automod to trick you into thinking your posts or comments are showing up for others (like setting it to remove everything for a specific user). They do this to avoid accountability when they can’t easily explain what rule you broke or when mods censor based on ideological grounds. I also get censored automatically by automod often and find that my posts or comments don’t show up randomly - presumably I hit automod filters, but I still worry every single time that my account is shadowbanned.
If automod and the blocking functionality isn’t abused, any divergent opinion or perspective gets completely buried by downvotes. Like me pointing out how rigged things are for progressives (it’s hard for me to stomach people acting like the Democrats need to move right because progressive policies are “extremely unpopular”).
Anyway, moderation has been very fair here to me, I just want others to know that reddit is completely busted for healthy discourse and some of the tricks users and mods use to create echo chambers.
The problem is that you really can’t criticize the DNC without inadvertently endorsing the GOP. It’s a fact of life in a two party system.
That’s a convenient stance for people who love everything the DNC does and want to shut down all criticism.
Maybe if Democrats didn’t unquestionably ship weapons to a state exterminating an occupied people, I’d shut up and fall in line. Maybe.
Congratulations, you and people like you convinced 8 Million DNC voters to stay home in 2024, now Trump is president and a Fox News host with white supremacist tattoos is head of the DoD and pushing for the death or exodus of every single Palestinian, Israel put tanks on the ground in Gaza for the first time in two decades and started bombing Rafah with weapons that the DNC withheld previously. Blood is on your hands.
My impact was nil. Did you not read my post? I get censored and buried.
If you want someone to blame, look within, and tell the Democrats to do the same.
Running a rushed campaign with no substantive policies, tirelessly lying about tirelessly working for a ceasefire, appealing to the right, not holding primaries, pushing a senile, self-proclaimed Zionist (Biden) until the last minute (who supported the genocide unquestionably) surely didn’t have anything to do with the loss.
Point is, there are a lot more than 8 million untapped voters. 1/3 of the country doesn’t vote. Encourage Democrats to tap into that demographic, and pressure genocidal states just a little bit. It’d go a long way.
If that helps you sleep at night.
Your source for that article cites the Israeli officials, who btw endorsed Trump.
Nine top Biden officials admit that there was no pressure.
https://i.redd.it/itubfj2n5oxe1.png
Again, that image quotes the exact same Israeli, and there is no link to any article or anything by this Israeli news channel from there so…
You also have top Biden officials making the opposite claim that they did try everything, short of full withdrawal of support which was never going to happen because Israel is an irreplaceable asset to the US Military in the region, to bring about a ceasefire and that Netanyahu was dragging it out for the US Elections. There are quotes from staffers that old man Biden would swear at Netanyahu over the phone. There is a quote from Trump that Biden was withholding shipments of large bombs that were already paid for, shipments that Trump immediately pushed through.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/white-house-aides-finally-reveal-who-really-ran-the-country-as-biden-slid-into-mental-incompetence/ar-AA1waZeH
And aides reveal that Biden essentially wasn’t running the country, but his administration sure shipped out a lot of bombs to support the war against women and children.
Regardless, I already know that you and I will likely not see eye to eye from past observance of your postings, and that’s fine. You can imagine blood on my hands, and that’s also fine. I did not mention the issue overseas directly
oncemore than a handful of times in my postings until after the election, because I wanted to believe the Biden administration would shift after the tens of thousands of civilian deaths.Bottom line, do you think the Democratic party should continue to be coddled, with all criticism silenced, while they have no winning strategy and even major donors have lost confidence?
It’s a lot of energy to invest in a discourse that is being oppositionally refereed. Under better circumstances I’d say it was laudable, and on Lemmy the effort is certainly less wasted, but I’m starting to wonder if maybe the better part of our energies are better spent on in-person political efforts.
I agree - I struggle a lot with my health, but there has to be something I can do in-person. Our direction needs to change as a society.