In this setting, liberals face a conundrum. How far should they maintain traditional liberal ideals, and how far should they move towards non-liberal, and potentially illiberal, ideologies if these seem more promising for the purposes of social change?
Dude, relax.
The very concept of human rights is a product of liberalism as a political philosophy. You seem to support values championed by liberal philosophers, while also thinking that liberalism is basically satan. Pick a side.
I’m anti capitalist, I would consider myself a socialist but not a liberalist, but I’m nonetheless at least as influenced by liberal thought as I am by socialist thought. If you can’t square that that’s worrying, but I’ve spent enough time here.
No
What an absolutely asinine and reductive interpretation of what I said.
Then you are not a liberal, by definition
Yes, obviously; socialist thought is directly descended from liberal thought, it is impossible to be a socialist without being influenced by liberal thought.
What a bad faith little worm comment.