Earlier this month, three trans women were beaten by a group of young men in Seattle's gay neighborhood. According to the county prosecutor's office, there's been at least four more group beatings since June 2024. In one case, strangers joined in.
I don’t think thats an option for everybody–even cis women who dress wrong or are very tall get caught up in transphobic fervor sometimes.
You get your rights by making people afraid to take them from you–not by hiding. Doubly so when fascists are involved.
Edit: everyone saying trans people should just hide: please remember that not every trans person has passing privilege. Even some cis women don’t by current standards. Unless you’re willing to hide them in your attic pay for all their needs because they can’t go to work and take care of their emotional well being entirely out of your own pocket–please shut the fuck up. Even aside from the fact this is not the time for that: please shut the fuck up.
No, this is the best possible time to retreat. They’re solidifying their surveillance state and preparing to point the lens at trans people. Those who can should be minimizing their online presence at the very least.
Trans people aren’t going to have any progression on their rights until fascism is defeated. Full stop.
I think you’re making the mistake of thinking that more people care about trans people than actually do. Trans people are a fraction of a percent of the population, and they don’t have the numbers to rally a meaningful public fight against the current regime.
Right now isn’t the time to stick your neck out. It’s the time to start building safety networks and organizing to stay safe.
Americans are like hyenas are portrayed in Disney movies.
If you act like a victim, they will come after you. Fighting bigots in the street, leaving them bloody and broken, is good PR.
The fascist propaganda, in absence of real trans people, will shape ideas of what a trans person is. Hiding let’s them control the narrative.
And some trans people simply do not have the option to fucking hide if you respond without acknowledging this and telling me what those people should do, i’m just gonna block you without responding. If you say we just need to throw them under the bus, unless you’re posting this from your sniper’s nest while hunting fascists, perhaps you too should be under that bus.
I can’t tell you what the trans people without an option to hide should do. I’m not a full trans advocate. I believe they should be treated like any other human, but I’m one of those people I mentioned that your plight isn’t even on my radar. I’m supporting a chronically ill spouse, so that’s my focus.
But my focus is that of many other Americans. You’re not even on our radar.
The trans people who can’t leave need to do whatever the fuck they can to blend in. Disappear from all social media, especially Lemmy since it’s anti-privacy.
Also, fuck you for daring to suggest that my point is to throw trans people under the bus. You’re the one advocating that trans people put themselves in harms way for absolutely no reason.
I’m suggesting that trans people disconnect and construct their own safety networks to stay safe. You’re suggesting that trans people buy guns and shoot federal agents who will use that as an excuse to ramp up their extermination plan.
You clearly don’t grasp the gravity of the situation if you think that the current political atmosphere is treating trans people like blacks or gays before then.
But your rhetoric is basically saying that Jews in Nazi Germany didn’t fight hard enough.
Most trans people can’t go anywhere. Very very few have that option. Many literally cannot blend in. Some trans people are really obviously trans. Some transphobes will just get aggressive based on a single trait like height, and often go after cis women who are more that than average, as well as trans ones.
Those people are in harms way. They have been in harms way. They unfortunately will continue to be in harm’s way for the foreseeable future. They cannot hide. It’s not a thing. That’s not a serious suggestion unless you’re offering your attic.
I’m aware of where this is going. You don’t seem aware of where it is or where it’s been
Edit: notice how you’re assuming I’m trans just because I’m arguing a nuanced point about a segment of the trans community? That’s a very very bad sign.
They are being attacked in a gay mecca. Hiding the fact that they are here and who they are is exactly what these fucks want.
Arm up, get allies on board is more in the line with the seattle ethos. We don’t put up with that shit around here:
No, these fucks want all trans people dead, not for them to be unseen.
It’s easier to participate in a resistance if you’re not broadcasting that you’re in the group they’re trying to exterminate.
I don’t think thats an option for everybody–even cis women who dress wrong or are very tall get caught up in transphobic fervor sometimes.
You get your rights by making people afraid to take them from you–not by hiding. Doubly so when fascists are involved.
Edit: everyone saying trans people should just hide: please remember that not every trans person has passing privilege. Even some cis women don’t by current standards. Unless you’re willing to hide them in your attic pay for all their needs because they can’t go to work and take care of their emotional well being entirely out of your own pocket–please shut the fuck up. Even aside from the fact this is not the time for that: please shut the fuck up.
Sometimes retreating is the best strategy, such as when the government is ramping up to exterminate you.
I never said that trans people shouldn’t fight for their rights, but you have to be alive to effectively fight fascism.
This is literally the worst possible time to retreat–for those that even can, some cannot
No, this is the best possible time to retreat. They’re solidifying their surveillance state and preparing to point the lens at trans people. Those who can should be minimizing their online presence at the very least.
Trans people aren’t going to have any progression on their rights until fascism is defeated. Full stop.
I think you’re making the mistake of thinking that more people care about trans people than actually do. Trans people are a fraction of a percent of the population, and they don’t have the numbers to rally a meaningful public fight against the current regime.
Right now isn’t the time to stick your neck out. It’s the time to start building safety networks and organizing to stay safe.
Americans are like hyenas are portrayed in Disney movies.
If you act like a victim, they will come after you. Fighting bigots in the street, leaving them bloody and broken, is good PR.
The fascist propaganda, in absence of real trans people, will shape ideas of what a trans person is. Hiding let’s them control the narrative.
And some trans people simply do not have the option to fucking hide if you respond without acknowledging this and telling me what those people should do, i’m just gonna block you without responding. If you say we just need to throw them under the bus, unless you’re posting this from your sniper’s nest while hunting fascists, perhaps you too should be under that bus.
I can’t tell you what the trans people without an option to hide should do. I’m not a full trans advocate. I believe they should be treated like any other human, but I’m one of those people I mentioned that your plight isn’t even on my radar. I’m supporting a chronically ill spouse, so that’s my focus.
But my focus is that of many other Americans. You’re not even on our radar.
The trans people who can’t leave need to do whatever the fuck they can to blend in. Disappear from all social media, especially Lemmy since it’s anti-privacy.
Also, fuck you for daring to suggest that my point is to throw trans people under the bus. You’re the one advocating that trans people put themselves in harms way for absolutely no reason.
I’m suggesting that trans people disconnect and construct their own safety networks to stay safe. You’re suggesting that trans people buy guns and shoot federal agents who will use that as an excuse to ramp up their extermination plan.
You clearly don’t grasp the gravity of the situation if you think that the current political atmosphere is treating trans people like blacks or gays before then.
But your rhetoric is basically saying that Jews in Nazi Germany didn’t fight hard enough.
Most trans people can’t go anywhere. Very very few have that option. Many literally cannot blend in. Some trans people are really obviously trans. Some transphobes will just get aggressive based on a single trait like height, and often go after cis women who are more that than average, as well as trans ones.
Those people are in harms way. They have been in harms way. They unfortunately will continue to be in harm’s way for the foreseeable future. They cannot hide. It’s not a thing. That’s not a serious suggestion unless you’re offering your attic.
I’m aware of where this is going. You don’t seem aware of where it is or where it’s been
Edit: notice how you’re assuming I’m trans just because I’m arguing a nuanced point about a segment of the trans community? That’s a very very bad sign.