Earlier this month, three trans women were beaten by a group of young men in Seattle's gay neighborhood. According to the county prosecutor's office, there's been at least four more group beatings since June 2024. In one case, strangers joined in.
Why not? Again, I repeat, trans Americans do not really have 2nd Amendment rights. They’re purely theoretical; they do not exist in practice. She defended herself, and look what happened. If you are a trans person and use lethal force to defend yourself, you WILL be made an example of just like she was. Prosecutors wanted to send the message that trans people shouldn’t get uppity and resist their abusers. They did that to CeCe, and they’ll do that to you.
There is a reason most all guides on LGBT self defense focus on things other than using weapons for self-defense. They focus on thing like traveling in groups and retreating. There is also a reason it’s an ongoing debate over whether police officers should be allowed at Pride. The first Pride was a riot against evil police.
The problem with using lethal force to defend yourself is that doing so inevitably requires interfacing with the justice system. And that justice system is just as likely to abuse a trans person as the bigot that assaulted them.
As a trans person, if you use lethal force to defend yourself, you are signing yourself up for years of daily sexual assault. That is the cold hard reality.
You only want to focus on the defense part, in the abstract, but you’re completely ignoring what that actually looks like in the real world.
As a trans woman myself, this is one of the reasons I don’t carry a firearm. In almost any situation trying to retreat is much better option than trying to stand my ground. And even if there is no where to retreat, again, there are fates in this world that are worse than death.
If you use a gun to defend yourself the alternative if you dont have the gun is generally assumed to be rape or death or both. What happens after is another question, but you have a right to obtain and carry a gun to use it to protect yourself.
Well trans women don’t have the luxury of casually dismissing what comes after. Again, trans people do not actually have 2nd amendment rights. In practice it is not legal for us to use firearms in self defense.
I get what you’re saying, and you can make your own decisions. This is a personal thing that people need to balance their own shitty options. But for me at least, I would rather be dead than spend years in a rape dungeon.
McDonald’s case is pretty uniquely unjust and shouldn’t be used to encourage trans women to not defend themselves
Why not? Again, I repeat, trans Americans do not really have 2nd Amendment rights. They’re purely theoretical; they do not exist in practice. She defended herself, and look what happened. If you are a trans person and use lethal force to defend yourself, you WILL be made an example of just like she was. Prosecutors wanted to send the message that trans people shouldn’t get uppity and resist their abusers. They did that to CeCe, and they’ll do that to you.
There is a reason most all guides on LGBT self defense focus on things other than using weapons for self-defense. They focus on thing like traveling in groups and retreating. There is also a reason it’s an ongoing debate over whether police officers should be allowed at Pride. The first Pride was a riot against evil police.
The problem with using lethal force to defend yourself is that doing so inevitably requires interfacing with the justice system. And that justice system is just as likely to abuse a trans person as the bigot that assaulted them.
As a trans person, if you use lethal force to defend yourself, you are signing yourself up for years of daily sexual assault. That is the cold hard reality.
You only want to focus on the defense part, in the abstract, but you’re completely ignoring what that actually looks like in the real world.
As a trans woman myself, this is one of the reasons I don’t carry a firearm. In almost any situation trying to retreat is much better option than trying to stand my ground. And even if there is no where to retreat, again, there are fates in this world that are worse than death.
If you use a gun to defend yourself the alternative if you dont have the gun is generally assumed to be rape or death or both. What happens after is another question, but you have a right to obtain and carry a gun to use it to protect yourself.
Well trans women don’t have the luxury of casually dismissing what comes after. Again, trans people do not actually have 2nd amendment rights. In practice it is not legal for us to use firearms in self defense.
I’m not casually dismissing what comes after, I’m saying it’s still better than the alternative. Also for the record, I am a trans woman who has guns.
I get what you’re saying, and you can make your own decisions. This is a personal thing that people need to balance their own shitty options. But for me at least, I would rather be dead than spend years in a rape dungeon.