Really appreciate the comment, thank you. Since I’ve had some education via my dietician and personal progress/experience, I’ve wanted to give my thoughts in case it helps. But here it seems you are much better up to date with these, and I’ve also got new perspective and reading from this. So thanks, again, especially for challenging my suggestions when it’s often risky here in internet as you’d often get negative pushback and most wouldn’t bother to subject themselves to that.
Monitoring personal health metrics is also helpful, especially lipids, ketones, glucose, fasting insulin, etc…
For whoever might be wondering about all this, I believe a lot of these can be tested from blood alone, which means it’s fairly fast and cheap. At least here, but here we have the benefit of a socialist democracy and its welfare system, I.e healthcare is essentially free. So especially if the latter applies to you too, you will not do any harm checking up on your levels from time to time!
For me, just a completely unrelated blood draw revealed problems with my blood glucose before it ever got to diabetes, and also revealed some (luckily minor) damage to my liver due to fatty liver. Which meant I was able, just by accidentally doing blood tests for something else, avoid these things getting worse and irreparable, and as it happens, ketogenic diet is very good for the latter (fatty liver, perhaps inner fat in general I think?), and fortunately in my case, it didn’t worsen the former either, so I managed to avoid the need for potentially expensive meds just by doing some diet education and changes, it was monitored full keto in the short term and later I was advised to return to more normal diet but with strictly reduced carbs so as to not let the problems resurface.
Just all to illustrate how just simple and quick tests like this can be accidentally good. I didn’t display any problems outwards, so I had no idea I was slowly sliding towards pre-diabetes and liver cirrchosis (really not sure how to spell that in English but I hope the word is similar and close enough).
And when doing any bigger diet changes, it’ll be good to have a baseline from before it, to compare against at different points of the diet.
So thanks, again, especially for challenging my suggestions when it’s often risky here in internet as you’d often get negative pushback and most wouldn’t bother to subject themselves to that.
The greatest joy I’ve found on lemmy is collaborative constructive discussions where people don’t agree, but are open to other people’s ideas. Thank you for being a thoughtful person.
just a completely unrelated blood draw revealed problems with my blood glucose before it ever got to diabetes, and also revealed some (luckily minor) damage to my liver due to fatty liver.
If you haven’t heard of the TG/HDL ratio as a marker for insulin resistance, its a fascinating area of research. It’s on all lipid panels and can tell people about creeping insulin problems (i.e. CVD risk, FLD risk) - https://hackertalks.com/post/5922188
ketogenic diet is very good for the latter (fatty liver, perhaps inner fat in general I think?)
Yes, all visceral, inter organ fat, inter muscular fat - resolve quickly on a ketogenic metabolism.
I was advised to return to more normal diet but with strictly reduced carbs so as to not let the problems resurface.
I’m not aware of any dangers of staying keto full time, so I don’t think the return to a carb based metabolism is necessary (but if that is what people find more sustainable, more power to them)
And when doing any bigger diet changes, it’ll be good to have a baseline from before it, to compare against at different points of the diet.
Really appreciate the comment, thank you. Since I’ve had some education via my dietician and personal progress/experience, I’ve wanted to give my thoughts in case it helps. But here it seems you are much better up to date with these, and I’ve also got new perspective and reading from this. So thanks, again, especially for challenging my suggestions when it’s often risky here in internet as you’d often get negative pushback and most wouldn’t bother to subject themselves to that.
For whoever might be wondering about all this, I believe a lot of these can be tested from blood alone, which means it’s fairly fast and cheap. At least here, but here we have the benefit of a socialist democracy and its welfare system, I.e healthcare is essentially free. So especially if the latter applies to you too, you will not do any harm checking up on your levels from time to time!
For me, just a completely unrelated blood draw revealed problems with my blood glucose before it ever got to diabetes, and also revealed some (luckily minor) damage to my liver due to fatty liver. Which meant I was able, just by accidentally doing blood tests for something else, avoid these things getting worse and irreparable, and as it happens, ketogenic diet is very good for the latter (fatty liver, perhaps inner fat in general I think?), and fortunately in my case, it didn’t worsen the former either, so I managed to avoid the need for potentially expensive meds just by doing some diet education and changes, it was monitored full keto in the short term and later I was advised to return to more normal diet but with strictly reduced carbs so as to not let the problems resurface.
Just all to illustrate how just simple and quick tests like this can be accidentally good. I didn’t display any problems outwards, so I had no idea I was slowly sliding towards pre-diabetes and liver cirrchosis (really not sure how to spell that in English but I hope the word is similar and close enough).
And when doing any bigger diet changes, it’ll be good to have a baseline from before it, to compare against at different points of the diet.
The greatest joy I’ve found on lemmy is collaborative constructive discussions where people don’t agree, but are open to other people’s ideas. Thank you for being a thoughtful person.
If you haven’t heard of the TG/HDL ratio as a marker for insulin resistance, its a fascinating area of research. It’s on all lipid panels and can tell people about creeping insulin problems (i.e. CVD risk, FLD risk) - https://hackertalks.com/post/5922188
Yes, all visceral, inter organ fat, inter muscular fat - resolve quickly on a ketogenic metabolism.
I’m not aware of any dangers of staying keto full time, so I don’t think the return to a carb based metabolism is necessary (but if that is what people find more sustainable, more power to them)
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