Saying there is enough solar power for everyone in the daytime, the federal government will direct retailers to provide three hours of free power every day to consumers.
VPPs mate lol. It says that at the end there. When everyone has a smart meter and the only plans available are VPP ones, what do you think the power companies will do with the legislation that allows them to draw all your power from your battery and charge you for it?
AEMO and the power companies will make sure of it. People without batteries will pay absurd amounts for power, and those with batteries will pay slightly less than absurd prices.
Because disconnecting from the grid won’t be an option, legally. Not to mention that having enough solar and batteries to go completely off grid would require most households to take out a second mortgage to pay for it.
having enough solar and batteries to go completely off grid would require most households to take out a second mortgage to pay for it.
there are loads of people living off grid up in tara
i have a 6.6kw solar system and 10kw battery (and a smart meter 😧!) and im already 90% off the grid, in 20 years time we may have 40kw solar panels for the same cost as 6.6kw today and 100kw batteries
Because disconnecting from the grid won’t be an option, legally.
sorry are you talking about reality or is this an elaborate blade runner style dystopian fantasy novel you’re writing?
Cool, so you’re not off grid. That last 10% is the hardest part, the most expensive part. The part that stops people from ever being able to be off grid.
The price of solar panels and batteries will only go up as we stupidly base our entire grid, life, and economy around them, especially since we aren’t manufacturing them here.
The government will absolutely make it mandatory to be connected to the grid because that’s the only way their desired grid will function.
Cool, so you’re not off grid. That last 10% is the hardest part, the most expensive part. The part that stops people from ever being able to be off grid.
Stop talking shit mate LOL! it’s because I bought my battery in 2022 for 16k, today I can buy a 40kw battery for 6k:
PLUS
• Standard Price: $5,999
• OzBargain: $5,899
(Single-phase 10kW, 4 MPPTs + 41.93kWh Battery)
You know how prices have rapidly come down for solar and batteries? and generation and storage capacities have gone up? I’m making the crazy prediction that this trend will continue… crazy I know!
This is in 2025, do you seriously believe in 2030 or 2040 we’ll be back to 10kw storage again? that there will be no gains in solar panels for the next 30 years?
The price of solar panels and batteries will only go up
🤦♂️ The fuck is this? Are you trolling me?
Anyway I’m done with this conversation, I’m not interested in educating you further. good day sir.
especially since we aren’t manufacturing them here.
Anyone buying those 40-50kwh batteries for $5k and expecting them to actually get installed and not be absolutely crap fakes, well I’ve got a bridge to sell you. Both those deals are dodgy as fuck mate lol.
Prices haven’t come down for batteries or solar, not the actual price to consumers. A Tesla solar wall costs more today than they did when they first came out. Cost to produce is not the same as price to customers.
You’re kidding if you think battery prices are going to hit dirt cheap when the entire country literally depends on them because our stupid government are corrupt and incompetent.
VPPs mate lol. It says that at the end there. When everyone has a smart meter and the only plans available are VPP ones, what do you think the power companies will do with the legislation that allows them to draw all your power from your battery and charge you for it?
Who says there will be only VPP ones? And you’re saying all 10 million households will have a home battery?
AEMO and the power companies will make sure of it. People without batteries will pay absurd amounts for power, and those with batteries will pay slightly less than absurd prices.
why would people with solar and battery pay absurd prices instead of just disconnecting from the grid?
Because disconnecting from the grid won’t be an option, legally. Not to mention that having enough solar and batteries to go completely off grid would require most households to take out a second mortgage to pay for it.
there are loads of people living off grid up in tara
i have a 6.6kw solar system and 10kw battery (and a smart meter 😧!) and im already 90% off the grid, in 20 years time we may have 40kw solar panels for the same cost as 6.6kw today and 100kw batteries
sorry are you talking about reality or is this an elaborate blade runner style dystopian fantasy novel you’re writing?
Cool, so you’re not off grid. That last 10% is the hardest part, the most expensive part. The part that stops people from ever being able to be off grid.
The price of solar panels and batteries will only go up as we stupidly base our entire grid, life, and economy around them, especially since we aren’t manufacturing them here.
The government will absolutely make it mandatory to be connected to the grid because that’s the only way their desired grid will function.
Stop talking shit mate LOL! it’s because I bought my battery in 2022 for 16k, today I can buy a 40kw battery for 6k:
PLUS • Standard Price: $5,999 • OzBargain: $5,899 (Single-phase 10kW, 4 MPPTs + 41.93kWh Battery)
https://www.ozbargain.com.au/node/925016
I also saw recently 50kw storage:
https://www.ozbargain.com.au/node/935342
You know how prices have rapidly come down for solar and batteries? and generation and storage capacities have gone up? I’m making the crazy prediction that this trend will continue… crazy I know!
This is in 2025, do you seriously believe in 2030 or 2040 we’ll be back to 10kw storage again? that there will be no gains in solar panels for the next 30 years?
🤦♂️ The fuck is this? Are you trolling me?
Anyway I’m done with this conversation, I’m not interested in educating you further. good day sir.
Shout out to https://tindosolar.com.au/ Solar panels made in Adelaide and https://redearth.energy/ Batteries made in Brisbane and https://www.evos.com.au/ EV chargers made in Brisbane
Anyone buying those 40-50kwh batteries for $5k and expecting them to actually get installed and not be absolutely crap fakes, well I’ve got a bridge to sell you. Both those deals are dodgy as fuck mate lol.
Prices haven’t come down for batteries or solar, not the actual price to consumers. A Tesla solar wall costs more today than they did when they first came out. Cost to produce is not the same as price to customers.
You’re kidding if you think battery prices are going to hit dirt cheap when the entire country literally depends on them because our stupid government are corrupt and incompetent.