• Krono@lemmy.today
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      1 day ago

      Just like how Obama punished all the war criminals when he got into office, right?

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          And what are the people going to do about it? Vote harder? Protest?

          We did all that in 2008, and Obama still let the war criminals go free.

          So if you honestly believe this situation will be different, please explain how it is different.

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            Mubarak was dictator of Egypt for decades. When the cost of bread became unaffordable, he was out within weeks.

            Change is impossible until it’s inevitable.

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              Oh so you’re saying we need violent coup of the American government in order to make progress? That makes sense.

              It seemed like you were suggesting we could get ICE Nuremberg trials through the electoral process. That is a fantasy.

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                I’m not an accelerationist. Too many innocent people would be hurt in a revolution. If we can get there through reform, it should be pursued.

                I don’t exaggerate when I say the fascists’ greatest weapon is demoralization. If they can get us to accept their agenda without a fight, they truly win. Don’t help them win.

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          I wish I had your faith.

          This stuff has been going on for almost a year with this kind of limp wristed wet lettuce response.

          Half of America thinks things are going great.

          Even with a change of government I cant imagine there will be a great repeal of all th bad things.

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            We narrowly avoided a revolution in 2008. Donald was the popular protest vote against the status quo that made the banks whole.

            When even the populist demagogue fails to change the status quo and people can’t afford groceries, things change.

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              Loads of people have been unable to afford groceries for a long time.

              To topple a regime you need the oligarchs to really start to hurt, so they withdraw their support.

              I can’t really see that happening in the foreseeable TBH.

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                  Plenty of countries with lots of hungry people.

                  The thing is, you would need a big chunk of the population to enter hardship at the same time, rather than merely being in hardship at the same time.