Without context, I’m going to guess you mean the Covid vaccine.
It’s different from prior vaccines.
If you’re taking about the mRNA vaccines, then you are partially right, but there is a non-mRNA option you can get in the US.
So much so that they changed the definition for vaccine so the new one would fit it.
Source? I’m also curious to get your definition of what a vaccine is.
It’s being pushed by untrustworthy entities.
It’s also being “pushed” by multiple world-class regulatory organizations with millions of hours of experience in testing the efficacy and safety of all kinds of medicine.
It’s got serious side-effects.
Any and every kind of medical procedure can have serious side effects. Clearly you’ve never read the waiver and info page for any vaccine you’ve received. There is a mile of potential issues, along with a guide on what to do if you experience certain symptoms, and resources for you to reachout to if you believe you are having an adverse reaction to your shot. Vaccines are considered based on the chance that you will have an adverse reaction, and the severity of that reaction, and ultimately the mRNA vaccines do not rise above the risk threshold for other “conventional” vaccines.
It is being pushed by the biggest propaganda campaign I ever saw. It really is impressive, and scary, to see the media and the public so in-synch.
This is a wakeup call to let you know that you’re an oppositional defiant luddite who has been scared by reknowned liars and conspiracy theorists. Also, you should listen to your wife more, she’s right most of the time.
I’m too lazy to provide sources at the moment. Maybe peruse this thread.
I think that you are a true believer in the midst of a society filled with true believers. As incapable of controlling the vector of your thoughts as a pebble embedded in a glacier. As certain of the truth as a medieval zealot. If the tv told you to cut off your feet you’d do it today and chuckle at what fools those other guys are. No thanks.
You’d be the first to describe me as a “true believer”. I’m about as skeptical as it gets, but being skeptical does not mean “disagree with everything on principle” it means “everything needs to have a standard of evidence” and right now, claiming that mRNA vaccines are dangerous and ineffective does not have a peer reviewed consensus amongst medical experts. In lieu of having my own lab, and the time and funding to run my own study and get it peer reviewed (something I have neither the funds, time, nor expertise to do) I must rely on experts in the subject who are respected in their relevant fields.
You write like a seminary school dropout with a 3rd grade understanding of biology fishing for a fox news daytime correspondent position.
You could trust the evidence of your own senses
Very funny you mention that, because your own senses aren’t worth diddly-squat in the scientific world. It’s what you would call “anecdotal evidence”… Barely better than a secondhand recounting of a Facebook post. It’s especially funny to put human senses on a pedestal when communicating to someone who wears corrective lenses. Do you even know what your senses are? It’s mostly chemical/electrical impulses made by bits of meat, sent along bundles of meat to a meat-based signal processor, which interperts those signals and makes it available to other parts of your meatiness to react to. I don’t trust my senses, because what I have to sense with is made to see food, hear predators, and smell mates. My senses are wholly insufficient to see individual cells, let alone the proteins that make them up, and the nucleic acids that code for those proteins. My fingers lack the precision to detect the shape and size of a virus. You can’t rely on your eyes for that you need a microscope. You can’t measure tiny distance by touch, you need a micrometer. I don’t trust my senses, but I have confidence in the steel, glass and repeatable precision of a machine.
…wait till you’re actually sick before reaching for the medicine.
Seems like you are the kind of person who waits for a car crash before reaching for their seatbelt. Frankly, the world’s is better off it this is true.
It really is funny, because there is no shortage of optical and auditory illusions. Hundreds of thousands of people claim to have seen ghosts, or flying saucers, or bigfoot, but none of those things has been confirmed to exist. Your senses do lie to you, and they lie a lot. Pilots are trained to rely on their instruments when flying, because your inner ear evolved to keep you upright when walking and running, and not to tell you which way is up in a tumbling aircraft. Your eyes evolved to spot food and predators, but even our advanced human eyes fail to discern the ocean from the sky, and no small number of experienced pilots have crashed because they didn’t trust the artificial horizon in their airplane.
Little late to the party, but I’ll jump in.
Without context, I’m going to guess you mean the Covid vaccine.
If you’re taking about the mRNA vaccines, then you are partially right, but there is a non-mRNA option you can get in the US.
Source? I’m also curious to get your definition of what a vaccine is.
It’s also being “pushed” by multiple world-class regulatory organizations with millions of hours of experience in testing the efficacy and safety of all kinds of medicine.
Any and every kind of medical procedure can have serious side effects. Clearly you’ve never read the waiver and info page for any vaccine you’ve received. There is a mile of potential issues, along with a guide on what to do if you experience certain symptoms, and resources for you to reachout to if you believe you are having an adverse reaction to your shot. Vaccines are considered based on the chance that you will have an adverse reaction, and the severity of that reaction, and ultimately the mRNA vaccines do not rise above the risk threshold for other “conventional” vaccines.
This is a wakeup call to let you know that you’re an oppositional defiant luddite who has been scared by reknowned liars and conspiracy theorists. Also, you should listen to your wife more, she’s right most of the time.
I’m too lazy to provide sources at the moment. Maybe peruse this thread.
I think that you are a true believer in the midst of a society filled with true believers. As incapable of controlling the vector of your thoughts as a pebble embedded in a glacier. As certain of the truth as a medieval zealot. If the tv told you to cut off your feet you’d do it today and chuckle at what fools those other guys are. No thanks.
You’d be the first to describe me as a “true believer”. I’m about as skeptical as it gets, but being skeptical does not mean “disagree with everything on principle” it means “everything needs to have a standard of evidence” and right now, claiming that mRNA vaccines are dangerous and ineffective does not have a peer reviewed consensus amongst medical experts. In lieu of having my own lab, and the time and funding to run my own study and get it peer reviewed (something I have neither the funds, time, nor expertise to do) I must rely on experts in the subject who are respected in their relevant fields.
You could trust the evidence of your own senses and wait till you’re actually sick before reaching for the medicine.
You write like a seminary school dropout with a 3rd grade understanding of biology fishing for a fox news daytime correspondent position.
Very funny you mention that, because your own senses aren’t worth diddly-squat in the scientific world. It’s what you would call “anecdotal evidence”… Barely better than a secondhand recounting of a Facebook post. It’s especially funny to put human senses on a pedestal when communicating to someone who wears corrective lenses. Do you even know what your senses are? It’s mostly chemical/electrical impulses made by bits of meat, sent along bundles of meat to a meat-based signal processor, which interperts those signals and makes it available to other parts of your meatiness to react to. I don’t trust my senses, because what I have to sense with is made to see food, hear predators, and smell mates. My senses are wholly insufficient to see individual cells, let alone the proteins that make them up, and the nucleic acids that code for those proteins. My fingers lack the precision to detect the shape and size of a virus. You can’t rely on your eyes for that you need a microscope. You can’t measure tiny distance by touch, you need a micrometer. I don’t trust my senses, but I have confidence in the steel, glass and repeatable precision of a machine.
Seems like you are the kind of person who waits for a car crash before reaching for their seatbelt. Frankly, the world’s is better off it this is true.
It really is funny, because there is no shortage of optical and auditory illusions. Hundreds of thousands of people claim to have seen ghosts, or flying saucers, or bigfoot, but none of those things has been confirmed to exist. Your senses do lie to you, and they lie a lot. Pilots are trained to rely on their instruments when flying, because your inner ear evolved to keep you upright when walking and running, and not to tell you which way is up in a tumbling aircraft. Your eyes evolved to spot food and predators, but even our advanced human eyes fail to discern the ocean from the sky, and no small number of experienced pilots have crashed because they didn’t trust the artificial horizon in their airplane.
You stand proudly as an example for us all.
The projection is herculean.
No u