• mushroommunk@lemmy.today
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        One of the torpedos we are actively using in a Iran right now costs $4.8 million each.

        One of the missiles shown I believe is the RIM-116 (not been in it for a while), each one costs $950,000.

        The numbers shown might not be 100% accurate but they’re very much in the correct ballpark

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          What first made me completely disbelieve the video was the Phalanx costing hundreds of thousands in a few seconds. That’s order of magnitude wrong. Yes, the RIM-116 is in the ballpark although still too high.

          Anyway, the video is bullshit. That has nothing to do with whether the point it is trying to make is. No need to get that defensive.

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            Except the ultimate point is how much money we spend on pointless death. And you dissing a video for making that point when it got one wrong is kind part of it. It’s missing the forest for the trees.

            Going bigger picture, the war in Iran is costing $70 million a day currently (actual estimates I’ve seen. even worse with Pentagon’s own billion a day estimate). That would cover food stamps for over ten million people. That’s the point of the video, not the specific numbers for a phalanx shell

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              It’s not getting one wrong. But much more importantly, if your point is backed up by fake numbers, no one who didn’t agree with you from the start is going to take you seriously. Pointing bullshit early is important, unless you want your greater point undermined by bullshit numbers.

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        care to name the weapon system and it’s actual cost for munitions and rearmament? Or is this a “trust me bro” moment?

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          I could go search for them, or you could notice that the price tag is different for each of the 3 torpedo launches shown despite being the same type of torpedo. 🤡

          Anyway, the CIWS systems like the phalanx (minigun looking shit) cost around $3,500 per second, not above $50k a second like the video would suggest.

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        This is especially true when you realize that some of the footage is from Russian ships. So the numbers can’t be precise.

        But that doesn’t change the fact that we are spending billions a day to murder and poison innocent Iranians in an illegal war at the behest of israel, while our own citizens starve and die in our crumbling streets, or go bankrupt from medical debt, or are arrested for the color of their skin, their accent, or their political beliefs; or they get shot for being black, or brown, or mentally unwell, or just… confused because some cowardly undertrained, wife-beating, alcoholic asshole didn’t learn to use his hands growing up or learn like… an actual productive skill; or they get preventable cancers and die because of environmental deregulations, or they have to work well into their golden years because everything is unaffordable, and these same assholes are working tirelessly to destroy Social Security or Medicare and Medicaid. While millions of powerless people all over the world die from starvation or easily treatable illnesses because some tech bros wanted to end USAID, literally the only sort of halfway good thing we do in this world. The world is unlucky to have us as their neighbors. We are full of vile, self-obsessed, self-righteous scumbags. Fuck this country, and fuck the ethnostate of israel for all time. We are a net drain on humanity.