The mother was in shock that day in May 2018 as several law enforcement officers, some in tactical gear, stood outside the rural Winnemucca home to serve a search warrant.
“I had a miscarriage, OK? A miscarriage. Why are you guys here over a f**king miscarriage?” Rousseau responded to the deputy.
The single mother, who was already struggling to afford care for her two young boys, was dealing with complicated feelings of ambivalence and guilt about her unplanned pregnancy and stillbirth, her attorney said. Rousseau told the deputies she had been taking large quantities of cinnamon and lifting heavy things while pregnant “to have a miscarriage.”
Deputies walked to a cross that was painted red with Abel’s name written in black on a green plot behind the house, according to the police body camera footage and a police report. They dug up the remains and carried them to a law enforcement vehicle, the report said.
Two days later, Rousseau was arrested and charged with felony manslaughter before she was convicted in Nevada, where abortion is legal, under what legal experts say is a vague and broadly written statute that makes it a crime for any woman to take drugs with the intent to terminate a pregnancy. She was also charged with concealing birth, a misdemeanor, but was not convicted on that charge.
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Removing access to safe healthcare will make people choose UNsafe healthcare.
Pre-medical cultures used a variety of toxins, for example, that when brewed wrong were extremely risky. That’s where the average American is going with Mercenary healthcare and prison for even mentioning a pregnancy.
If she goes down for it, then her co-conspirators go down too.
Hell the bible even has instructions on how to do it! Luckily for the christofascists, they’ve never read the bible.
True, obviously the system is prone to make people do those things.
Do you not comprehend that all normal options were taken from her?
How were all normal options taken from her?
When abortion is made illegal or inaccessible through state bans (triggered by the Dobbs decision) and birth control options are narrowed by revived federal laws like the Comstock Act (which criminalizes mailing contraceptives and abortion-related materials), women with unwanted pregnancies may self-induce miscarriages simply because they have no legal alternative—not because they prefer an unsafe method, but because safe, legal abortion has been taken away.
When abortion is outlawed, the only thing that changes is that more women die.
Absolutely, but it was not illegal or inaccessible to her, she simply did not know what to do with the other kids during her hospital stay. And to me, this sounds like a very cheap excuse.
Her conviction was vacated. That means it’s like it never happened. They were wrong to arrest and prosecute her.
You could at least read the article.
This does not answer my question. No options were taken from her. She did not go to the hospital because no one would be able to take care of the kids. What an amazing argument to then force an unethical miscarriage.
And things like “I don’t know how old the fetus was” is also on her. a) maybe don’t fuck like a bunny with so many people; b) absence of period minus roughly 4 weeks. That’s the min and max age of the fetus.
The cinnamon she ingested had no part in the miscarriage.
Should she had abandon her kids to get to the hospital instead?
Not all women have regular periods.
You’re clearly misinformed on this topic on several levels. Best to sit this one out with your pearl clutching.
Who’s ethics? Yours?
The fetus was incapable of knowing it was gone. It rejoined the void that it came from. Your ethics are rejected.
This is such a bad take. I guess I must be 3 years pregnant /s. You have no idea what it is like to be a woman and living in poverty, let alone one that is also a mother and cannot afford another kid. Slut-shaming is misogynistic as well, women are not mechanical clocks and we do not freak out over every missed period. Please reflect on this. The problem is capitalism once again, but you care more about a woman and a miscarriage instead of why she was in this predicament in the first place.
Come on, don’t put words into my mouth. I never did any slut-shaming. You can go fuck all you want, but please do not spread any diseases and do not get pregnant if you can’t afford a kid in the first place. Unfortunately it is not documented why she was getting pregnant. If she was raped? Hell get rid of that fetus. If she was too lazy to use protection? If you do abortion then, it is clearly unethical, no matter what.
Additionally, she clearly knew she was pregnant. So then you clearly know the rough min/max age of the fetus. This has nothing to do with just missing a period every now any then. So how did she know she was pregnant?
Abortions aren’t unethical.
You’re a hypocrite if you support abortion after rape but not otherwise.
You don’t understand anything about women and pregnancy if you think it’s that easy to determine how far along one is in pregnancy.
This is the weird slut-shaming I was referring to.
Women cannot control whether they get pregnant or not. No birth control is 100% effective. Even the high percentages you see are ‘perfect use’ and mean for every 100 women, 10 women actually get pregnant with ‘typical use’ while using their birth control (Source). The higher effective ones are things like the IUD and arm implant, devices that are expensive and come with their own risks but are also not 100% effective; although they’re the closest you can get. Women have all sorts of reasons for picking their chosen birth control, some cannot handle hormones at all. Even I’ve been wrecked by various birth controls. You are effectively saying sex is only for procreation and nothing else.
There is no reason to judge a woman’s choice to abort as ethical or unethical. None. As in, it is offensive you are suggesting this. Shit happens. Most abortions are not due to rape and even knowing this, it does not fucking matter. The fact you assume she is lazy is atrocious. It isn’t documented why she was pregnant because it’s none of your business!
And no, knowing she was pregnant does not help determine how far along she is unless she had sex and then never had sex again after that and then caught on to her missed period (assuming she has regular periods, I personally do not even before I started birth control). C’mon, please web search this because women are not identical birthing machines.
Alright everyone. Form a line. Make sure to ask zr0 for permission before you do any fucking.
She did nothing wrong.
She did nothing wrong? By trying to have a miscarriage? By risking permanently disabling a human just because she apparently was unable to go to the hospital to get a proper abortion?
Sure. Nothing wrong here.
Women are allowed to have autonomy over their own bodies.
She was jailed for 2 years for something that was legal.
You have no idea the burden of being this poor and in the situation she found herself in to hold judgment on her.
We are talking about mutilating a human, not about the health implications for her. I couldn’t care less what people do to their own body and I am very pro abortions. But there is a difference between ending a life ethically and slowly take the life away in an archaic way.
Or are you also killing your pets with shovels to avoid vet bills?
No human was mutilated, or could be mutilated.
Many pets are put down to avoid vet bills… every second of every minute of every hour of every day.
Try fighting for real people over possible potential people, you’ll be useful then.
Fetuses are literal parasites inside a woman’s body frankly.
It’s not comparable to killing pets, FFS.
Now it is obvious why you like the idea of forcing a miscarriage with cinnamon, if you call fetuses parasites.
They’re functionally parasites, especially in the first trimester lol. They leech nutrients from their mother’s body.
Abortion is healthcare. Women deserve respect and autonomy.
It’s an herbal abortion if her cinnamon treatment was the cause. if it had worked, it would be a proper abortion.
No human was harmed, don’t you have better things to defend? Try defending people next time. Like the woman. She’s a people.
And if not, she might give birth to baby with low survival chances and constant pain. Obviously now it is cool to defend stone age methods. Enjoy the cinnamon taste I guess.
I wonder why this woman felt she needed to do it this way? Hmmm…
That was a possibility regardless of the cinnamon.
It was determined that she did not induce the miscarriage herself.