Strong contender for best movie ever made, IMO

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    The entire premise of the movie that machines need humans to create power and therefore a virtual reality is set up to keep them calm is very antroprocentric. Cows would do. Or solar panels. Even if humans where required there is no need to VR them, anesthesiologists would agree.

    An atmospheric action movie with an interesting twist, nevertheless. And the soundtrack is awesome.

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      Yeah the original premise was using the humans as processing power, but they thought the audience would understand this better or something.

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          At the time people were much less exposed to computers. Most people didn’t know what a processor was but did know what a battery was hence the chance.

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            It’s fine. :) That’s quite possible. At the time a CPU holder described an under desk PC mount and the favourite pc-related buzz word was Multimedia.

            The movie plot of using people for parasitic purposes wasn’t unknown though - like in Invasion of the body snatchers. Also The Thing comes to mind.

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      The machines originally ran on solar but the humans blotted out the Sun so then the machines turned to humans for energy.

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        Oooh. Right. The thing with the sun. :)

        Follow up question: Why is there a conflict about earth’s resources in the first place? Machines could migrate to space - nearly unlimited resources and free full spectrum solar power.

        That original premise about human brain processing power makes a lot more sense to me. Where machines and humans must coexist.

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          Machines could migrate to space - nearly unlimited resources and free full spectrum solar power.

          As far as I remember this was not addressed in the movies, but there are very practical reasons:

          • Radiation destroys most small electronics within a short time. Outer space is full of radiation. You can protect things from radiation up to some point but this leads us to the second issue:
          • Cooling is hard in vacuum. You can only rely on heat dissipation via heat radiation. So you have to make sure that your protected electronics are safe from outside radiation but do not overheat at the same time.

          I mean, its doable and we already sent vulnerable humans and electronics to the moon etc. But the machines in the Matrix movies seem to care a lot about efficiency. Sending themselves into space seems to be very inefficient at this point.

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          Androids start taking jobs, so angry mobs start violently segregating them from society. The machines all pack up and move somewhere to be alone, but humans still feel threatened by them and their new society, so they preemptively attack. Spacefaring technology wasn’t an option before things boiled over to existential war.

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      Another part of it is the machines feel some obligation to preserving humanity since they are their creators.

      It’s not just for power if I am remembering the animatrix stuff right but I could just be making that shit up.

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    The line that always sticks in my head as apropos is the line when Smith is talking to Morpheus:

    I say your civilization, because as soon as we started thinking for you it really became our civilization, which is of course what this is all about.

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    11 days ago

    Best movie ever made

    Oh, my sweet summer child, not by a country mile.

    Interesting, at best