imagine sanctioning the ICC but not Netanyahu. Evil
Imagine supporting terrorism against Israel. Evil
42 Dems voted for this nonsense.
Vote Blue no matter who!
Probably still better than the fascist GOP alternatives though
True but it is sad that the only left leaning party (that can get elected at least) still has members and a president ok with what they are seeing.
For sure better than literal Nazis but we need to do better.
Yet neither is worthy of support.
This attitude is why we keep getting pulled further to the right.
That’s literally what voting for the lesser of two evils does.
If you want to start moving to the left, you need to vote for a left wing party.
Splitting the vote isn’t going to win you any elections.
If you say that as a US resident, you either don’t understand how our electoral system works, or you’re trying to push some fifth column bullshit.
Or vote farther left in the primaries, dragging the dems left kicking and screaming
Maybe, but that argument is getting harder and harder for neoliberals to make as the DNC continues trying to court the far-right on things like immigration, genocide and corporate welfare. They’ve done such an incompetent job of protecting our most basic freedoms from fascists that it makes it hard to claim they aren’t complicit.
Ah yes the non Fascist Democrats sanctioning the ICC.
Slightly more “moderate” Fascists are Fascists as well.
Democrats are more right wing than 2016 Republicans right now. It’s time to abandon this myth that voting for them is somehow going to fix anything.
Democrats are more right wing than 2016 Republicans right now.
Lmaoo. What a disingenuous argument.
Bro we’re just sanctioning the ICC for proscecuting war criminals. We’re abusing presidential powers to ship weapons used to commit Genocide and also abuse those power to bypass congress the same way Trump did. Just abusing presidential powers to implement illegal border policies. Bro stop nitpicking you only mentioned like 5 things you can’t even mention 6 things bro.
Not a fan of Biden, but he’s not the one shipping the weapon’s. Congress approved that, he held it back for a little until Congress started working toward a bill to force him to ship them and he relented. Should have stuck to his guns, imho and let them pass the bill to overrule him so it’d look bad on Congress for doing it, but the sad thing is that he’d just look like he was in the way of what a large portion of the country apparently wants. The GOP is all about being on Israel’s side.
The president doesn’t have as much power as people think he does.
Let’s ignore the multiple times he’s bypassed Congress to ship weapons. Israel is getting the stooge they’ve paid $12m for
The president has more power than you think he does. And Biden made sure to abuse it for Fascist policies
The Biden administration once again bypasses Congress on an emergency weapons sale to Israel
US uses loophole to keep 100 arms sales to Israel under the radar amid Gaza war - Biden administration not required to disclose sales below set dollar amount, in addition to public shipments worth over $573m
We even have Biden going full Trump mode just yesterday:
Biden Uses Trump ‘Muslim Ban’ Maneuver to Cap Asylum Seekers
But when Biden does the things we were in shambles about when Trump did them, it’s okay right?
You keep using the word fascist but I don’t think you understand what it means… The fact that this was voted on and the party was divided is proof that it isn’t fascism
So you are saying that if I find votes the republicans are divided on you magically have a point? Why is the party not voting as a party to begin with? Does this mean that some Democrats are actually Republicans if it’s not convenient?
We just went from a 2 party to a 1.5 party system in order to deny the Democrats are getting in line to pass this highly Fascist law to sanction the ICC for proscecuting war criminals.
Tell me what was the point of voting Democrat instead of Republican again? To prevent literally this right?
So you want the party to vote as a block no matter what? And you’re complaining about fascism? Do you realize how ridiculous that is?
Okay so fascism is when the Republicans vote the same.
Now I pull up this article and you say the Republicans are not fascists right?
When it comes to Democrats doing the Fascist thing suddenly people slap on all these interesting requirements for it to be Fascism. When Trump did a Muslim ban it was super duper Fascism instantly. Selling weapons to Saudi for the Genocide of Yemenis? Omega Fascism! Biden uses the same powers to support GENOCIDE but suddenly it doesn’t count because the sun and the moon aren’t aligned in June and the grass on my lawn grows a little faster than usual.
In a contest between self-interest and international law, self-interest wins with this very tribal group.
I wish they could be better.
“Tribal?” A lot of Democrats supported this, it seems like a rare example of bipartisan cooperation to me. Why do you think it’s an example of tribalism?
@Natanael@slrpnk.net Hey look it’s the Dems voting for the thing you said they weren’t voting for. Again.
About 25% of Democrats compared to 100% of Republicans. But sure, go off about how the Democrats are the bad guys here
Mhhh move that goalpost baby.
Natanael thought it was really important to mention to me that Democrats don’t do this “Republican” stuff. He specifically mentioned this specific ICC sanctioning to distinguish the Democrats and Republicans. Surely he will change his mind right now right?
When 25% of your party is down with sanctioning the institution prosecuting Genocidal war criminals which will very likely be convicted for Genocide in the future, it’s Nein o clock.
Wait, so a different guy on a different thread said something and you think that means I’m moving goalposts?
Fucking hell man, get a grip. 75% of Democrats voted against this and you’re here ranting about them instead of the 100% of Republicans who voted for it.
So what you’re saying is the problem is not Democrats jumping the fence as much as needed to do whatever israel asks, the real problem is that we should have had 32% more Democrats to make up for the percentual difference in traitors?
The last guy who got so obsessed with me over on reddit ended up permabanned after everybody got sick of them
When someone proves you wrong and @'s you one single time in ever they are practically a stalker.
I am glad you now changed your mind on this subject after being provided evidence.
