• qaz@lemmy.world
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    6 months ago

    We did this a while ago in the Netherlands and so far the research results on the effects look promising.

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      6 months ago

      Yes even the kids’ reactions generally seemed positive, some mentioned there were more conversations and joking going on in between classes, and cyber bullying was less prevalent (although ‘old school’ bullying seemed to make a comeback somewhat)

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    6 months ago

    Kids need to be able to leave their last words when a school shooter comes. If the government is going to ban phones they should at least allow old school audio recorders. While we are at it might be a good policy to require school IDs to be in shoes at all times so children dead bodies can be identified faster.

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      6 months ago

      They could also just take a regular cellphone.

      As far as I can see, this is banning smartphones, not cellphones. Can still do calls and text.

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        6 months ago

        What kid these days has a dumb phone? This effectively bans phones and put the burden of corralling student attention in the hands of the parents.

        Parents aren’t about to go out replacing their kids phones with dumb phones. Kids aren’t about to stop carrying their phones (I would tell my kids to keep it on them regardless of what the school says)

        This is just a thin excuse for boards to put the blame on teachers and parents for the districts poor performance when really what we need is a lower teacher to student ratio, higher wage for teachers, and schools that are properly funded so these kids can be engaged with instead of policed.

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    6 months ago

    Take away kids ability to communicate with family and law enforcement when they get shot up.

    Genius idea.

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      6 months ago

      I hate school shootings as much as you, but I don’t think cell phones do much help once the shooter is in the building.

      Edit: Uvalde would be a good example where the shooter was identified and authorities were called while the shooter was still outside the building.

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        If you wanna get all brutal and how it is in America about it, I am thinking more about giving the kids a chance to say good bye than actually getting help.

        We have established that noone who could actually do something about it cares about all of the kids getting murdered in America schools.

        Edit: And remember. While Uvalde cops sat outside and wet their pampers, a mother overpowered them to get children evacuated. A mother who was… notified by their child with a cell phone… and later faced criminal charges for it.

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          6 months ago

          I understand and empathize with the point you are trying to make. School shootings are the worst possible tragedies.

          That said, I still do not think we should shape school cell phone policies around the off chance of a school shooting (please do not chastise my use of ‘off chance’. The fact that it happens at all is too much, but I think the chance that it happens to any one school is still pretty low).

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            The off chance?

            The mother fucking off chance?

            You know what an off chance was? Columbine.

            200+ years of American history, one bona fide school shooting.

            There are so many school shootings happening in America that news outlets just stopped reporting them.

            You, sir, can fuck right the hell off.

            Request to be exempt from being chastised denied.

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              Maybe you should learn how to hold a normal discussion without attacking the other party. Cursing and telling the other party to fuck off just because they disagree with you will not convinced anyone of anything and will only make you look bad. It’s not like the person you’re responding to is advocating for school shootings or anything else immoral.

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    Can we just ban smartphones in general? Please?

    Go back to payphones and pagers and if you need to carry information in your pocket, PDAs where you have useful non-connected apps and download information ahead of time at home and store on the device instead of using a slow, unreliable, garbage tracking device to find what you need.

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      6 months ago

      I’m with you. I have similar relationship with connected devices as I do with cigarettes.

      I don’t like being threatened by the state but banning something has a bonus effect of making it look dirty.

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    6 months ago

    They did something similar in Indiana. It’s not a ‘the cops are coming’ thing. It’s more about having a law that the school can reference when whiny ass parents get mad when a teacher takes a students phone away because it’s disrupting class.