• Rivalarrival@lemmy.today
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    2 months ago

    Given the type of data they are talking about, there is no such thing as a “bystander”. Anyone close enough to stop the shooter is a victim of at least “assault with a deadly weapon”, if not a victim of “attempted murder” or a victim of “murder”.

    For accuracy, the legend on this chart should have the word “bystander” replaced with the word “victim” in all instances.

    • KillingTimeItself@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      2 months ago

      yeah idk, to me bystander is like that one guy in that one mall in indiana who managed to shoot an active shooter. You mean to tell me these people aren’t real and don’t exist? I’m not surprised.

      Or just like, some dude walking by a crime actively happening. To me the individual being criminalized on, the victim, if they were to own a gun, i would think this stat would be a lot more likely.

      This also ignores the actual point of things like conceal carry, if you open carry someone probably won’t try to rob you or mug you at all, which is going to be a statistical anomaly, you aren’t supposed to use your gun unless you absolutely need to, if that means handing over your wallet and cancelling your cards, so be it, at least you didn’t kill someone.

      It’s really only meant to be for the 0.1% of cases where it might actually be required.