After months of getting close, the relationship between Trump and his so-called ‘first buddy’ has become ‘fraught,’ according to a New York Times reporter
  • ThaMunsta@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
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    29 days ago

    With Facebook not fact-checking I really see this as an opportunity to galvanize the President Musk fact on as many posts as possible. Complaining about it only makes first lady Trump sound like a woke fake news puppet.

  • ExtremeDullard@lemmy.sdf.org
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    30 days ago

    Firstly, “President Musk” isn’t a joke.
    Secondly, half the reason everybody says it is to piss off Vice-President Trump.

    • ThePowerOfGeek@lemmy.worldEnglish
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      30 days ago

      Secondly, half the reason everybody says it is to piss off Vice-President Trump First Lady Musk.

      Fixed it for you. Trump doesn’t even have the prestige or influence of a vice president (and that alone speaks volumes) in this situation.

      Edit: no offense meant to women/trans folks.

      • growsomethinggood ()@reddthat.com
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        29 days ago

        Hey, just so you’re aware, a lot of women and trans people find this joke pretty misogynistic and transphobic since it implies that it would be more demeaning for Elon to be a woman or queer than it is for him to be his regular cringey self. Something to keep in mind so we don’t friendly-fire on our allies!

        Edit for anyone still struggling with this: if 👏 you 👏 misgender 👏 ANYONE 👏 on purpose 👏 then 👏 trans 👏 people 👏 will 👏 not 👏 trust 👏 you 👏

        ThePowerofGeek, you’re great and appreciated and I hope you don’t read anything below from the people who want you to have a worse reaction so their feelings don’t get hurt vicariously.

        • Hackerman_uwu@lemmy.world
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          29 days ago

          The intent is to say something that will antagonise Trump. The intent is not to demean women.

          Attacking someone who shares your moral platform because you purposefully misinterpret their words to suit a separate agenda is friendly fire.

          Transphobia and misogyny are not to be tolerated, do you really think that someone attacking turnip (autocorrect, I’m leaving it) online doesn’t share your views on this?

          Stip trying to police speech among your allies. Focus on intent. Stop with the nonsense infighting we are at war rn.

          • growsomethinggood ()@reddthat.com
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            29 days ago

            Why are trans people’s feelings less important than feelings of people making jokes online?

            I don’t want to be arguing here either, that’s why I’m politely letting folks know that these sort of jokes may alienate their allies. You don’t have to do anything with that information if you don’t want to! Don’t engage with this at all, and feel free to let me know what material good you’ve done to fight for trans rights in the time saved, will you?

            • Hackerman_uwu@lemmy.world
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              29 days ago

              They are not just jokes. People posting these things are doing so specifically to antagonise the right.

              I’m telling you that your concern trolling is alienating allies.

              I have chosen to engage in this just like you chose to deal with the blowback when you posted it.

              All I have done to “fight for trans rights” is to speak out when I can, challenge bigotry as I am challenging you right now, stand up and be counted at queer marches/events and raise a daughter who took the only trans kid in her high school to prom.

              You don’t know my life and that isn’t the discussion. Stop deflecting and learn to focus on intent.

              • octopus_ink@lemmy.mlEnglish
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                27 days ago

                I’m telling you that your concern trolling is alienating allies.

                And they are telling you that your lack of empathy is alienating a different set of allies. Those who you seem to claim to be allied with.

                Stop deflecting and learn to focus on intent.

                I mean, this is 101 stuff.

                https://www.healthline.com/health/intent-vs-impact

                If your impact doesn’t match your intent

                Ever found yourself saying, “But that’s not what I meant”?

                You aren’t alone. Everyone tends to measure their responses based on their own interpretation of a situation, meaning that unintentional harm is bound to happen — none of us are above an accidental “ouch.”

                If someone discloses that you hurt or offended them, the remainder of your relationship, whether it’s professional, romantic, or platonic, can depend on how you handle the situation.

                Here’s how to get things back on track:

                • Listen with the goal of understanding where they’re coming from, not with the goal of defending yourself. It can help to use the active listening technique of repeating back exactly what you hear.

                • Center their feelings, not yours. It’s normal to feel a little prickly when someone tells you that you did something wrong, and you disagree. But take a beat and a deep breath, and know that you can talk about your feelings later.

                • Genuinely apologize or acknowledge the impact that your actions had on them. Steer clear of “I’m sorry if,” “I’m sorry you,” or “I’m sorry but,” as these all lack accountability and put the blame on the one who was hurt. A simple “I’m sorry for doing that, and I’ll do better next time” can go a long way.

              • Katana314@lemmy.worldEnglish
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                28 days ago

                Stop deflecting and learn to focus on intent.

                I’m also in favor of the viewpoint that the “First Lady Trump” joke was fine. Just felt the need to comment on the last point; I’ve had that sentiment before too, but I’ve also seen danger in the idea that “Because my intentions were positive, I shouldn’t be criticized.” That’s been a defense used by bigots, too. eg, Trump throwing paper towels to disaster victims (even though he certainly didn’t have to take time out of his day to throw paper towels, gee, how nice he is!)

                I’d like to hope that in the past 30 days I’ve never said anything racist/bigoted - but I’d also acknowledge the possibility that despite my positive intentions, I may have. It’s only important because these days very few people think themselves to be bigots. Think about the type of person most likely to say things like “I’m not racist!”

  • Phoenicianpirate@lemm.eeEnglish
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    29 days ago

    I think we need to allow the wealthy to have pistol duels like in the past. Also they must be to the death. At least we will be rid of one problem regardless each time…

    • LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.world
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      28 days ago

      Now that’s an alternative motive for one to get rich. “Why do you think you would be a good fit for this company.”

      “I really want to grow my investment portfolio so I can fall into the wealthy category to achieve my dreams”