Summary
China condemned JD Vance on Tuesday for calling Chinese people “peasants” in a Fox News interview, where he said, “To make it a little more crystal clear, we borrow money from Chinese peasants to buy the things those Chinese peasants manufacture.”
The Chinese Foreign Ministry labeled the remarks “ignorant and disrespectful.”
The backlash exploded on Chinese social media, garnering 140 million Weibo views.
Critics mocked Vance’s own “hillbilly” background and pointed to China’s advanced tech and infrastructure, highlighting rising tensions amid Trump’s trade war.
The enemies have never been the Chinese proletariat who toil and slave for scraps to feed the demands of a capitalist, consumerist society and always the greedy, totalitarian faux-socialists with a love for concentration camps that form the ruling party.
Could you please tell me what’s the incarceration rate in China and compare it with the US?
First: No I cannot, the people of China do not enjoy freedom of press or freedom of expression, so finding out the actual statistics can be very difficult.
Second: What is your point? Two governments can be bad simultaneously, and even more than just two. Just because I oppose Israel’s genocide doesn’t mean I suddenly support Iran’s totalitarian leadership.
Nah, you’re just a racist US-propagandized individual who refuses to believe statistics from “le evil country” because they don’t suit your ideology. Trials in China are as public as in the rest of the world, and incarceration rates are easy to calculate, and they match the government data because China doesn’t need to lie about it becaude it’s not a police state in the way USians believe it to be. I can attest to that as someone who visited China freely and without visa, and who has had the pleasure of having several Chinese coworkers.
My point is that China’s incarceration rate is 5 times lower that of the USA, which makes it kinda obvious that there’s no “tyrant police state jailing everyone who disagrees”.
I’ve been looking for Chinese prison-crime-etc. data. Do you have a link?
It being in Mandarin isn’t a problem.
The United Nations Crime Trends Survey data seems to match pretty well with the data from World Prison Brief regarding prison population. Hopefully nobody will accuse the UN or a London-based organization of skewing the data in favour of China.
That’s the UN data for Hong Kong, but it was easy enough to find the page for the PRC, excluding Hong Kong and Macao. The figures still line up well enough (noting, as the other page does that it exclude statistics about people interred in the “vocational training schools”), although the UN doesn’t have figures post 2016.
UN page doesn’t seem to have execution rates either, which would also impact incarceration rates.
Not to say that the US isn’t atrocious and also terrible on all those metrics, and plumbing new lows with each successive presidency. I was just kinda hoping for some more official PRC reported figures.
The UN data appears on my browser for all countries including mainland China, doesn’t it appear to you?
Execution in the PRC necessitates approval from the Supreme Court, so it’s insignificant compared to total incarceration rate (unless we assume that the Supreme Court can oversee millions of cases per year). Unfortunately I don’t speak Chinese so I can’t really find official figures published in English.
Mainland PRC has no entries after 2016 for the UN site.
The London Prison studies one has an estimate for 2018, and says based off of UN data.
On 百度 I get mixed figures, from 3900 and another states At least 700 a year, but I also think it’s talking more globally.
Doesn’t seem to be public government statistics, like the UK or EU gov data sites, which would be nice to check things out and show to the rabid anti-China folks.
You’re either an apologist for totalitarian dictatorships who falls for propaganda as easily as MAGA cultists or you’re just straight-up trolling. The racism accusation was really the cherry on top.
I have never even visited the US, nor do I have any intention to.
You don’t need to live in the US to fall to US State Department propaganda, I’m west-European myself and I’m surrounded by people with the same brainworms as you do. But if you insist I’ll give you two sources that give similar numbers (i.e. 5 times smaller imprisonment rate than in the USA): source 1(London-based institute) source 2(UN data). Are those also totalitarian sources for this faulty information that we can’t believe because the evil politicians from the evil country are plotting to destroy the west?
That’s not how it works around here. No shades of gray I’m afraid, simple black and white only. (/s)
If it’s one thing I’ve learned in my years it’s the the truth is always somewhere in the middle. Just look at global warming.
Same as it ever was, governments sucking ass while the people are just… People… Even EU governments suck ass, just maybe ever so slightly less in recent history and even that I’m not sure of (not counting the current slide to the far right obviously).