A quick glance at both party’s voting history indicates Republicans aren’t going to vote in favor of the average American anytime soon.

Unfortunately, it appears most Americans are too stupid and lazy to do this kind of basic research and would rather have social media and talking heads on TV tell them what to do. Idiocracy.

Fun Fact: Democrats are historically better for our economy.

You’re not very good at learning how to format your responses. I’ve met 13 year olds more capable of using this tool than you are.

I definitely recommend getting out while you can. Move somewhere that affords you more rights and has a stronger economy.

Yup.

I don’t want bad things to happen anywhere in the world, but the bottom line is we have our own shit to deal with and jeopardizing our own country by becoming a single issue voter over two countries in a neverending religious conflict on the other side of the planet is one of the dumbest things I’ve ever seen.

We’re literally going to be in a state of decline for an unknown period of years now partially because we chose to place another country over our own by voting for the guy that made it clear he would allow that country to turn to dust.

It sounds stupid because it is, in fact, unbelievably stupid.

Oh they are. But realistically, based on all the evidence at hand, they won’t learn anything from it. They’ll be back to voting like fools in a few years. We Americans clearly don’t learn from our mistakes.

Consider this. A few weeks before the election Donald Trump and Elon Musk had a little circle jerk podcast interview with each other. They spent time talking about how anti-union they are and how much they hate worker’s rights. Then working class Americans went out in droves and voted for those two rich assholes who openly talked about wishing workers had less rights.

Americans. Are. Stupid.

Our situation isn’t going to get better any time soon.

You mean Israel has been trying, and failing, to do since 1948?

Have they tried as hard as they’re trying right now? Did they have someone named Donald Trump who was interested in helping them, or at least entirely getting out of their way while they do it, instead of putting up some form of resistance to the idea of them wiping Palestine out?

You sure do give white supremacists a lot of credit, don’t you?

I wouldn’t call it credit. I’d call it reading a history book and undestanding how far white supremacists are willing to go when given enough power.

Yup.

Everyone, left and right, are about to go through something very unpleasant together.

I never did have any hope for those on the right, but I hope those on the left that helped make this happen become fully aware of their mistake.

Yup.

In case anyone hasn’t noticed, the goalposts for norms have significantly shifted in the last decade. This is historically how it always begins.

Buckle up. Protect yourself.

Hope everyone is ready for this to be at least the next 4 years of our lives.

I say at least because these losers ran on fundamentally changing how our government works. In 4 years they may be able to create a scenario in which it’s literally impossible for them to lose an election. Not to mention the effect this will have on global politics.

We let the Stupids have total control of our federal government. Suffering will become the norm. And if you think we’re suffering now? Well, might be time to pick up a history book.

Still not using that noggin to learn new tricks, eh?

P.S. If you think that was a long message, you may have a learning disability.

I applaud you. Have fun attempting to turn the majority of Americans into responsible, educated voters. Especially while Republicans, who now control our government in its entirety, work to dismantle our public education system, which they literally ran on doing.

Here comes that doomerism…it’s over. We had a chance, and we completely dropped the ball. You don’t have to believe me when I say we’re in for long-term decline, just remember that some guy on Lemmy told you a handful of years from now when the decline is obvious and it’s clear that there’s no end in sight.

This was a pivotal moment in U.S. history, and we failed the test.

Sorry, I refuse to continue responding to your uneducated garbage until you learn how to format your replies properly.

People aren’t going to take you seriously if you can’t put in the minimal amount of effort to learn how to properly use the tool you’re attempting to use.

How were all those warnings and the fact Trump would run again not enough??

Because a bunch of whiny little bitches decided to become single issue voters.

“WAAAAAH, PALESTINE!!!”

Refuses to vote or votes 3rd party, guaranteeing the guy that will allow Palestine to turn to dust becomes president.

“WAAAAAH, STOP GIVING MONEY TO UKRAINE!!!”

Fails to understand that we’re doing that to keep our adversary from expanding their borders and threatening Europe/NATO.

“WAAAAAH, DEMOCRATS DIDN’T ENSHRINE ROE INTO LAW!!!”

Refuses to vote or votes 3rd party, guaranteeing the party that literally repealed Roe controls all aspects of our government.

The real answer to your question is that Americans are STUUUUUUUUPID. Clinically stupid. Uneducated. Uninstersted in informing themselves responsibly. STUUUUUUUUUPID.

Which is why we’ll suffer and are likely to be locked in to a long period of serious decline. Sucks to be us.

Yep.

The average person can’t be bothered to do their civic duty and look up stats/facts in order to make educated decisions… It’s all about emotion. And we all know how people make good choices when emotional.

We’re good and fucked. Hope everyone’s ready.

Yup.

You can blame the Democrat party all you want. Wasn’t their fault. It was American voter’s fault.

We are an unbelievably stupid electorate. And the suffering we’re about to experience is no one’s fault but our own. I’d like to say we’ll learn from it. But we won’t. Buckle up. We’re about to embark on a long decline.

Americans are dumb.

Democrats could have done a better job, no doubt about that. But it isn’t their fault Americans are dumb and too lazy to inform themselves responsibly. The data is all there. It’s freely available. Americans chose to vote based on feelings and allow themselves to be captured by propaganda instead of looking at the facts and they made a horribly uninformed decision.

No change in the Democrat’s strategy changes that Americans are just plain dumb.

You’re going to enjoy a medieval monarchy

Yup. Average Americans are going to lose so much of what little power we had over the next handful of years. Hope we’re all happy we chose this for ourselves.

Doomerism doesn’t help, but doom is what we’ve chosen.

We gleefully voted for it, in fact.

Time to suffer.

Lol.

Too late.

Palestine will cease to exist.

Why?

Because Donald Trump only helps those who he can directly benefit from. Palestine cannot benefit him. Israel can.

If you want to help Palestine, build a time machine, go back in time, and tell every liberal/independent fool who voted 3rd party or abstained from voting over the whole Palestine thing to do the smart thing instead.

Elections have consequences, and every last American is about to find that out the real hard way.

Ok, before I even get into this, are you aware that to the left of your question mark button is a button that has a right facing arrow, and if you put that right facing arrow in front of any of my quotes you don’t have to put quotations marks around my quotes in your responses and it makes your comments WAY easier to read by separating them from mine with a visual marker? Allow me to teach you.

what do you think scenarios are?

I mean, there are realistic scenarios and non-realistic scenarios. When we’re talking about an election and I say we ended up in the worst timeline, clearly I’m not talking about all possible fantastic timelines like all humans spontaneously growing a third arm on their foreheads.

Just to keep it simple, literally 4 years ago when everyone assumed Trump was inevitably going to win

But this isn’t the same situation. Trump came out of left field and won and no one, including himself, was prepared. And he still managed to create significant chaos and implement changes that have long-term effects. But he also had the highest White House administration turnover rate in history. It wasn’t an effective administration at all, which kept it from causing even more damage. Now they have had years to plan. Years to find the people they want in the positions they want them in. They have policy detailing how they’re going to dismantle our government and rebuild it in their image. And they openly ran on that policy.

Pick up a history book. Hitler got curb stomped the first time he gained some power and went to prison. Had time to plan some things. Came back and took power and…well…yeah.

This is a much more concerted, detailed effort than the last unplanned for clusterfuck. It is guaranteed that they will do anything and everything while in TOTAL control of our government in order to prevent them from losing any future election. They have paths to effectively make it impossible for a Democrat win. Legislation can be passed to change gerrymandering rules to give them an even bigger advantage than they already have. They have made it abundantly clear that they have no concern for norms or rules in general if those rules don’t benefit them.

you don’t understand how the legal system works even at a basic level.

Illuminate me. Please. Instead of just saying I don’t, explain to me what I don’t understand that makes anything I’ve said not a real, valid concern.

Laws only work if they are enforced. It is enshrined in our Constitution that presidents must divest from their businesses while in office. The Republican party flagrantly dismissed that directive for Donald Trump. Laws can be broken without repercussion if not enforced. They are now in control of all branches of our government. You think Republicans are going to enforce laws on themselves when we already know they’re not willing to do so? Or that they won’t legislate the laws that don’t benefit them out of existence?

he’s a 34 time convicted felon, he’s already had to pay $100 million and lost multiple court cases.

Can you provide proof to me that he has already paid E. Jean Carroll $100 million? Losing a court case is not justice if there is no punishment actually enforced. Can you point to any actual repercussions that have actually taken place for Donald Trump for any crime he has committed in recent memory? I’m fully aware, as you are, that he was originally fined $5 million for raping E. Jean Carroll, and then fined an extra $90 million for defaming her. Can you provide proof that sum has already been paid to E. Jean Carroll?

he literally was held accountable multiple times already and he’s still under indictment in many cases with more upcoming.

Again, being held accountable is paying for your crimes, not having a judge read off your sentencing in a courtroom. And what do you believe will happen to his other cases now that he’s been crowned king? There’s really no way for us to know yet, but the likliehood that they will go away just skyrocketed. Because some of what he’s indicted for comes with jail time if convicted. Do you honestly believe a sitting president, whose party now has total control of our government, will have to report to prison, especially with the SC’s recent broad decision about presidential immunity?

you’re completely wrong and ignorant of his legal status and his past consequences.

Past consequences? Like, are we going back decades here? Like when he lost a case for discriminating against black renters decades ago? I’m talking about his modern crimes. What ACTUAL repercussions has he suffered? He pay that $100 mil yet?

how?

that makes no sense.

you mean this one person was literally never elected to a second term at the exact moment in history?

If you don’t grasp how what we’re experiencing is unprecedented in American history, I’m not sure how much I can help you.

We have a party that has been taken over by extremists. I’ve been around long enough to confirm to you that the Republican party now is absolutely not the Republican party of the past. It is being taken over by extremists. By conspiracy theorists. Their officials helped spread a lie about our democratic institutions that resulted in an attempted insurrection on our government. They voted not to certify the 2020 election. They ran a convicted felon and adjudicated rapist who illegally attempted to overturn an election and ran on “dealing with the enemy within” and HE WON. That criminal and extremist party now fully controls our federal government.

THAT IS UNPRECEDENTED.

think about all these basic facts you’ve been wrong about just talking to one guy on the internet.

You haven’t proven me wrong on a single thing. The only thing you stated was that I didn’t know how our legal system worked without explaining to me why you think I’m wrong. Saying someone is wrong is not proving someone is wrong. You think I’m wrong about Trump not suffering consequences? He hasn’t. Prove to me he has since first taking office in 2016.

The figurehead matters, you just lack the historical knowledge and context to see that.

Yes, and he already did his job and put his party back in power. Do you honestly think that all conservative policy and efforts stop when Trump dies? Are you insane? He wouldn’t be who he is without the party that backed him. That party remains when he is gone and they’ve proven to be just as unethical and volatile as him BY SUPPORTING HIM UNDER ALL CIRCUMSTANCES.

you’re lucky i like teaching.

Please don’t do it professionally. You are extremely bad at it. You don’t even know how to use basic keyboard functions that work on Lemmy or Reddit so your replies to me don’t look like one long run on paragraph with no clear seprations between what you’re saying and my quotes.

again, it is illogical and absurd to believe in timelines and also believe there are only two.

It’s time to let this go. Being an edgelord never works in your favor when having a debate. Everyone but you understands what I was talking about. You’re being a contrarian and that’s only something people bad at debating do.

expand your mind.

Expand your knowledge regarding how to properly use this site’s functions to make your replies not look like garbled trash.

you sound like you’re pouting but desperate to learn more from me.

I’m talking to a person so ignorant that they don’t understand what’s unprecedented about the political situation we find ourselves in. I assure you, I have nothing to learn from you.