Vegafjord - demcon
I’m making a worldview that I call the oakframe. I like to make my own words, so feel free to ask what I mean by my words.
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Vegafjord - demcon@slrpnk.netOPto
No Stupid Questions@lemmy.world•How should we relate to language?
1·4 days agoWhat comes to my mind when you say this is daoism, buddhism, mindfulness, meditation, qigong and spontaneous dancing. To focus on the experiencing over theorizing.
Vegafjord - demcon@slrpnk.netOPto
No Stupid Questions@lemmy.world•How should we relate to language?
1·4 days agoCould you explain in your view how we transcend language?
Vegafjord - demcon@slrpnk.netOPto
No Stupid Questions@lemmy.world•How should we relate to language?
1·5 days agoNei, desverre:(
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No Stupid Questions@lemmy.world•How should we relate to language?
2·5 days agoI’ll look into it:)
Vegafjord - demcon@slrpnk.netOPto
No Stupid Questions@lemmy.world•How should we relate to language?
1·5 days agoA word carries a cultural reference. A society has a relationship towards different cultures and the cultural meaning are summened through the use of words. Water has a different cultural meaning in chinese languages compared to outside. Freedom has a different cultural meaning in america compared to outside. Målreising (tongue lift) has a different cultural meaning in norway compared to outside.
Languages bombards us with cultural meanings every day which shapes our deed in small and large ways. They have trained our mind in what information is important and what information is not important. We are mostly cognitively unconcious about what we do throughout the day. (look into Lakoff Philosophy in the flesh)
For this reason I am of the conviction that we should strive to know how we are influenced, how the words shapes us and impact our cognitive unconcious. I think we can best do this through ensuring that words are easy to understand, easy to construct, easy to teach, have strong images. By doing this languages becomes more accessible.
I often view my own personal language as a growing birch, in some regards. It grows in many directions. As I learn, branches grows, splits and gains leaves. When I juggle, there are many different ways I can grow upon already existing abilities. Taking a trick, I can make it more advanced, and if completed, it would be like a new branch growing from the previous trick.
By improving the flexibility of the language, we can envision growth more easily.
Norwegian
In Norway this question is much more prominent because we have two official written languages both with big fandoms. Book-norwegian and new-norwegian. These represents two different philosophies.
Book-norwegian was made on the basis of collecting how people spoke norwegian in the 1800’s (strongly influenced by danish) whereas new-norwegian was made by a linguist who wanted norwegian to be as removed from danish as possible.
From this we can characterize book-norwegian as pragmatist, whereas new-norwegian is purist.
We also have sam-norwegian which wants to mesh these two languages into one creating a single united language. I think this is absurd because the underlying philosophies does not blend.
My position in norwegian
The flaw with the pragmatic approach to language is that it makes whatever words comes in accepted, regardless of how well or poorly they mesh with the existing language. A word like “contraversial”, or “cohort” can enter the norwegian language even though the vast majority can’t speak latin. We are told their meanings instead of understanding their meanings.
Those who embrace new norwegian often say that it is a more poetic language, and I believe this is because it is easier to construct words when you have to operate with a single language instead of five. You don’t have to understand german, latin, french, danish and norwegian to construct words. The phonology is also more consistent easing rythm. It becomes easier to see how you can manipulate sentences.
Målreising
In norwegian we have what we call målreising which means we try to improve the language.
Esperanto
Yes, I have learned it.
What can we learn from it?
Esperanto has great resources for learning and is constructed for ease of learning. It’s easy to concatinate to create new words. By looking at a word, you can easily understand what it means even if you have never heard it before and you know how to pronounce the words immidiately.
World language
World languages is popular. They make it easy to travel long distances and still be understood, it makes it possible for a whole world to react to injustice on the other side of Gaja.
World languages has a lot of good things going for them.
But world languages also means that it becomes easier for might to influence the entire world through soft might. It makes the machine more efficient. Makes the cogs turn around faster. But whereas some would think of this as good… I view the increased efficiency as a way of increasing the burden upon a weakened Gaja.
There should be languages for coordination, but the size of world languages has given a monsterous hegemony for the mighty.
lokening: We should give less attention for world languages and more attention for geographically close languages.
Conclusion
Now this is a mess. Like a tree that grows in a thousand directions, I don’t really know how to entangle them back to a simple conclusion, and I feel like I’ve spent much more time on this than what I had planned, so I’ll have to stop here and hope there was some insight and not too confusing.
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Technology@lemmy.world•SpaceX Investors in Meltdown Over All the Money They’ve LostEnglish
51·6 days agoIm happy about it at least
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No Stupid Questions@lemmy.world•Why is AOC a big deal? She just speaks common sense and calls out absurdity. Have we really gone that far off the rails where we don't do it ourselves?
8·6 days agoIt might not look like much, but the really impressive part about their journey is how they avoid being dragged into a political sport between the liberal/conservative/MAGA cesspool, and instead drag our attention towards the meaningful.
Its a dreamers game, and those who captures the imagination of the people are the winners.
At the same time, Washington politics is a money game, and Sanders wing have been able to keep up with them only with money from small donors.
Well at least thats my takaway from following us politics between 2015 to 2021.
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No Stupid Questions@lemmy.world•Is it theoretically possible to construct a self reproducing mechanical device?
2·16 days agoIm just thinking life. Hasnt stopped reassembling itself since it’s origin.
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No Stupid Questions@lemmy.world•What does "Woke" mean to you?
41·16 days agoIt means to not be unconcious. To be awake and aware of reality. To take many valid frames and experiences into concideration. To be woke is a compliment about your ability to think holistically.
Being woke plays on the idea that most people are asleep. This is true in the sense that we live inside a machine that destroys the foundation of life on earth. We could also say that we live in a matrix and have to wake up from the simulation/dream.
Being asleep can also be seen as sufficiently consenting to the matrix, because you are either with the matrix or against it. Being silent is to be with it.
Vegafjord - demcon@slrpnk.nettoData is Beautiful@lemmy.world•Number of daily deaths in Germany since 2000 (in red is 2026 right until the recent heatwave)English
33·18 days agoit is you that decide whether you have change force or not
it seems like you have chosen to reject it
Vegafjord - demcon@slrpnk.nettoData is Beautiful@lemmy.world•Number of daily deaths in Germany since 2000 (in red is 2026 right until the recent heatwave)English
62·18 days agoYou are part of an interconnected world. You influence everybody around you, you influence yourself, you influence your society and you influence the world. Ofcourse you can bring about change.
Just find your inner healthy self and spread it. That way you turn the world healthy again. Its that simple.
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News@lemmy.world•Bill Gates testifies Epstein pressured him using knowledge of his affairs
11·2 months agoBillionaires dismissing humanity as is their nature.
Surveillance is good as long as we like the direction the machine is heading.
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Ask Lemmy@lemmy.world•What is your absolute favorite joke?
4·2 months agoknock knock
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Technology@lemmy.world•Flipper Unveils New Flipper One Modular Linux Cyberdeck: Flipper One hacking multitool offers 5G, Wi-Fi 6E and Linux on ARMEnglish
6·2 months agothis is what I call dreaming!



I quit my degree in computer science in 2018 after studying for two years, but I remember that it was a big focus on using norwegian for variable names.