Funnily enough European countries have immigration laws too.
This was in answer to :
Wouldn’t it be better to just do the European tour and then stay in Europe at this point?
Of course, they were leaving the US to go to Europe.
The band member was subject to a magistrate’s order and could not leave the country, as you would find out if you clicked through to the Austin Chronicle.
The band member was subject to a magistrate’s order and could not leave the country, as you would find out if you clicked through to the Austin Chronicle.
I found no mention of this, in either article. Where did you see this claim? Doesn’t really make sense to plan a tour abroad if it were true.
So no European country detained him? Glad we have that straight.
As to your asinine “overstaying in the country” point for the US, he has a green card and has been a legal US resident for 35 years. Its his country of residence. How can he “overstay?”
And lastly, as an entirely extraneous point, he was literally on a plane, leaving the country. How was that in anyway, shape or form “staying in the country” when he was on a vehicle in the literal process of leaving the country?
I’m missing something about ohulancutash’s comments. Everybody’s piling on the downvotes, but I’m can’t find the part where he made any sort of ‘asinine “overstaying in the country” point’ in the first place. He didn’t even use the word “overstay,” just “stay.” Moreover, the answer he gave about how it’s not so easy as the band deciding to “just do the European tour and then stay in Europe” because immigration laws are thing is correct.
So what justified the downvotes and your hostile tone?
Sure. His first comment excused this brutal US behavior by saying “Europe has immigration laws too,” implying what the US just did to a 35 yr legal, green card holding US resident was fine and ordinary.
His second comment ignored me asking about how Europe treats immigrants and answered a different question by saying that “they can’t just stay in Europe.”
This has almost nothing to do with what happened to this man. He has been detained in his legal country of residence, his home of 35 years, for no crime. He was detained while literally leaving the country, something that you would expect immigration would want if they didn’t want him here.
At no point did he “stay too long” in the US as that isn’t possible. Even if he somehow could, which he could not, he was still literally leaving.
So this case is nothing like European laws having to do with overstaying a visa. Bringing it up in a “duh guys, it’s just like the laws everywhere else” way is a disingenuous deflection from the fact that no, it is not. That is why they are being downvoted.
I think you (and everyone else) have lost the thread, mate. He was replying directly to the question “why can’t they just stay in Europe.” The answer is “Europe had immigration laws.”
His second comment ignored me asking about how Europe treats immigrants and answered a different question by saying that “they can’t just stay in Europe.”
It answered the question he originally replied to, which seems like a pretty reasonable response that charitably assumed you just didn’t understand him the first time, instead of attacking him (for an offense you ascribed to him “implying” and that he didn’t actually say) as you were actually trying to do.
I said nothing about the US. You’re going off half-cocked there. The question was why bands in such a situation simply wouldn’t stay in Europe after their tour.
You’re acting like that American cop who heard an acorn falling on his car and just started blasting.
Funnily enough European countries have immigration laws too.
This was in answer to :
Of course, they were leaving the US to go to Europe.
The band member was subject to a magistrate’s order and could not leave the country, as you would find out if you clicked through to the Austin Chronicle.
I found no mention of this, in either article. Where did you see this claim? Doesn’t really make sense to plan a tour abroad if it were true.
Which European country detained him? How was he treated while being processed by said country?
As in they couldn’t just stay in Europe after their tour.
So no European country detained him? Glad we have that straight.
As to your asinine “overstaying in the country” point for the US, he has a green card and has been a legal US resident for 35 years. Its his country of residence. How can he “overstay?”
And lastly, as an entirely extraneous point, he was literally on a plane, leaving the country. How was that in anyway, shape or form “staying in the country” when he was on a vehicle in the literal process of leaving the country?
I’m missing something about ohulancutash’s comments. Everybody’s piling on the downvotes, but I’m can’t find the part where he made any sort of ‘asinine “overstaying in the country” point’ in the first place. He didn’t even use the word “overstay,” just “stay.” Moreover, the answer he gave about how it’s not so easy as the band deciding to “just do the European tour and then stay in Europe” because immigration laws are thing is correct.
So what justified the downvotes and your hostile tone?
Sure. His first comment excused this brutal US behavior by saying “Europe has immigration laws too,” implying what the US just did to a 35 yr legal, green card holding US resident was fine and ordinary.
His second comment ignored me asking about how Europe treats immigrants and answered a different question by saying that “they can’t just stay in Europe.”
This has almost nothing to do with what happened to this man. He has been detained in his legal country of residence, his home of 35 years, for no crime. He was detained while literally leaving the country, something that you would expect immigration would want if they didn’t want him here.
At no point did he “stay too long” in the US as that isn’t possible. Even if he somehow could, which he could not, he was still literally leaving.
So this case is nothing like European laws having to do with overstaying a visa. Bringing it up in a “duh guys, it’s just like the laws everywhere else” way is a disingenuous deflection from the fact that no, it is not. That is why they are being downvoted.
I think you (and everyone else) have lost the thread, mate. He was replying directly to the question “why can’t they just stay in Europe.” The answer is “Europe had immigration laws.”
I don’t see anything wrong with this exchange.
It answered the question he originally replied to, which seems like a pretty reasonable response that charitably assumed you just didn’t understand him the first time, instead of attacking him (for an offense you ascribed to him “implying” and that he didn’t actually say) as you were actually trying to do.
I said nothing about the US. You’re going off half-cocked there. The question was why bands in such a situation simply wouldn’t stay in Europe after their tour.
You’re acting like that American cop who heard an acorn falling on his car and just started blasting.