In recent years, dozens of officers worked more than 1,000 hours of overtime annually. Experts say these levels of extra work can lead to accidents and poor decision making in use of force situations.
I mean, I agree entirely with the “abolish the police” movement. I don’t think policing in the US is recoverable. Its rotten to the core. Its a remnant of slavery. In that sense I’m an abolitionist.
But I also think its a thing that “law enforcement” is a thing that will be expected to happen. So if you are going to abolish policing as we currently know it, you need to replace it with something different.
Any law enforcement will be called police. Frankly it’s a bit silly to say police are rotten so if we abolish them we should change their name. That’s basically just rebranding. And I mean, sometimes that works, so I guess I shouldn’t discount it entirely.
Replace it with what? Militsiya? Pretty much every country in the world calls their law enforcement “police” these days. I suppose there are some that have gendarmerie or carabinieri or similar, though those exist next to police rather than instead of them usually.
Wikipedia seems to think they still have a police department. So the police as an institution isn’t being replaced, it’s just being reformed. It’s controlled by a different level of local government and it has different rules now, but it’s still police. If this is what you’re supporting, you’re not for abolishment of police, you’re for police reform. Which the US does heavily need. Abolishment of police means something else entirely.
I mean, I agree entirely with the “abolish the police” movement. I don’t think policing in the US is recoverable. Its rotten to the core. Its a remnant of slavery. In that sense I’m an abolitionist.
But I also think its a thing that “law enforcement” is a thing that will be expected to happen. So if you are going to abolish policing as we currently know it, you need to replace it with something different.
Any law enforcement will be called police. Frankly it’s a bit silly to say police are rotten so if we abolish them we should change their name. That’s basically just rebranding. And I mean, sometimes that works, so I guess I shouldn’t discount it entirely.
Replace it with what? Militsiya? Pretty much every country in the world calls their law enforcement “police” these days. I suppose there are some that have gendarmerie or carabinieri or similar, though those exist next to police rather than instead of them usually.
These questions aren’t being asked in a vacuum: https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2020/06/12/camden-policing-reforms-313750. Maybe ask a Camdenite? I’m sure we’ve got a few laying about.
Its not a hypothetical to dissolve a department of a government which is dysfunctional and rebuild it.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Camden_County_Police_Department
Wikipedia seems to think they still have a police department. So the police as an institution isn’t being replaced, it’s just being reformed. It’s controlled by a different level of local government and it has different rules now, but it’s still police. If this is what you’re supporting, you’re not for abolishment of police, you’re for police reform. Which the US does heavily need. Abolishment of police means something else entirely.