• Allero@lemmy.today
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    4 days ago

    How are you engaging in genocide if you do not take part in the war? And especially if you denounce the actions of your government? Is being born in Israel enough to be seen as a genocidal maniac?

    I swear this “settler” discourse is gonna drive me crazy at some point.

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      2 days ago

      How can you call me a robber just because I accepted all of these stolen goods that were stolen specifically for me to have?

      Shut the fuck up holy god

      Good. Go crazy. Shut the fuck up.

      Is being born in Israel enough to be seen as a genocidal maniac?

      If you join the IDF yes it fucking is. And why are you acting like this is something that happened at the dawn of history? These are not people who were born there. These are people who settled there because they were told they could murder people and steal their homes. Stop making ahistoric excuses for fucking fascists, you fucking fascist piece of shit.

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        In no way to be a snob, but could we tone it down? After all, we’re mostly on the same page on that the state of Israel is committing war crimes, we only differ in who we blame for it.

        Back to the substance:

        First, Israel as an independent state exists since 1948, so yes, the absolute majority of people living in modern day Israel were born there; they are not the same people who came to displace Palestinians all those decades ago.

        Second, I did not talk about IDF soldiers. Those who voluntarily joined Israeli armed forces do take part in an act of evil, and deserve to be judged. I do not support the same notion in respect to Israeli civilians and those on mandatory service.

        Third, in your robber hypothetical, where are the Israeli civilians? Do they have to renounce their citizenship and go live abroad not to receive “stolen goods”? Someone who is opposed to the war taking place are not “robbers” here.

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          18 hours ago

          First, Israel as an independent state exists since 1948, so yes, the absolute majority of people living in modern day Israel were born there

          Mind palace nonsense. Fuck you just saying shit so confidently. 50% of the jewish population emigrated since 2000.

          Second, I did not talk about IDF soldiers. Those who voluntarily joined Israeli armed forces do take part in an act of evil, and deserve to be judged. I do not support the same notion in respect to Israeli civilians and those on mandatory service.

          Literally learn the first fucking thing about the subject you’re talking about before you open your dumb fucking mouth about it. Not even going to help you here. Shut up. Sit down. Listen. Read. But most importantly shut the fuck up.

          hypothetical

          Fucking nazi genocide denial

          Someone who is opposed to the war taking place are not “robbers” here.

          Again just speaking out of pure fucking mind palace ignorance. The jewish population of Isn’treal almost unanimously supports the extermination of the palestinians. You are arguing pure rhetoric outside of reality. That’s why it’s so important that you shut the fuck up

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            18 hours ago

            Most of your points can be readily disproved with a single search query, however, it’s not worth engaging with a person who can’t hold their temper for a second.

            Therapy does magic.

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              18 hours ago

              You know what you call someone who remains placid and unphased in the face of a genocide?

              A Nazi.

              Most of your points can be readily disproved

              A Nazi that believes The Secret works on reality retroactively

              Wonder how you easily disprove the genocide denial you committed in this thread…?