• Gustephan@lemmy.world
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    5 hours ago

    Gonna be honest, I’m not reading that slop. You open by telling me that I’m dead wrong, then immediately confirming that my guess as to your political leaning was half correct, which sets a very clear tone that you’re here to mudwrestle on the internet rather than engage in a discussion. If you want to try again I’ll talk to you, but I’m not interested in trading novels high on insults and low on reading comprehension with you.

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      4 hours ago

      Of all the things in your comment, getting right the “you probably call yourself a centrist” is the least significant part. You’re wrong in all the rest of your comment, which is the actually important part.

      Whether someone calls themselves left, right or center is way less important than the policies they support.

      Because guess what. You can’t fit the entire world in 3 political buckets and expect everyone in each bucket to have the same opinion as everyone else on that bucket.

      As I said in another comment. The world is not black and white. There’s lots of shades of grey.

      And each person has a different combination of shades of grey for each political topic.

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      5 hours ago

      I assumed being centrist was already clear.

      Mudwrestle? I’m here to make a point, that not everything is back and white, left or right. But if you don’t want to discuss, fine by me. I didn’t insult you once so your insult is quite hypocritical and immature infact.

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        4 hours ago

        It sort of looks like you’re broadly supportive of progressive causes, but don’t support progressives in the actual “battles” that are being “fought”. The clearest example is you being “Pro climate policies”, but “against fossil fuel bans”. Basically, you want things to get better, but you don’t want things to be done to make them better. You want peace and quiet more than you progress, and you’re willing to cede basically all current issues to regressives in order get it. Of course, if regressives win, they’ll just want something else. And you’ll cede that to them too.

        In summary: you’re pathetic.

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          3 hours ago

          Why is everyone so sharp with words here?

          Should we stop pumping oil right this very minute? Do you think the world will be ready by 2050 to effectivly ban the sale of fossil fuel? We are yet to globally REDUCE carbon emissions, we’ve only decelerated so far and by a tiny amount. We are no where near ready to make the change. Unless you are willing to cause a massacre by shutting off the oil wells?

          I want things to be better, you’re right. And we all play a part in improving it. Right now I actually work in solar power infanstructure, is that pathetic? I vote against fossil fuels, and I am happy my country is cutting off gas and forcing people to be more electric.

          I have helped contribute to some of these other issues I have metioned also and donate and invest in the future.

          If you can draw a conclusion on a person so quickly and determine them to be pathetic, then what are you doing that makes you so special? Because, unfortunately, there is only so much a single person can do.

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            2 hours ago

            I’m judging you based on what you wrote about your position, which is all I do know about you, as well as what you chose to broadcast about yourself. And you paint yourself as a pathetic coward. You’re absolutely pathetic, even without comparing you to anybody else.

            Should we stop pumping oil right this very minute? Do you think the world will be ready by 2050 to effectivly ban the sale of fossil fuel? We are yet to globally REDUCE carbon emissions, we’ve only decelerated so far and by a tiny amount. We are no where near ready to make the change. Unless you are willing to cause a massacre by shutting off the oil wells?

            And a big reason why we, as a species, have not made any progress on that front, is because of cowardice. Decisions are being made by people who stand to profit from fossil fuels, or are too scared of the economic consequences of combating fossil fuel dependency. Even though the transition itself would help mitigate those consequences, e.g. new jobs created for green energy development would offset jobs loss due to the necessary structural change.

            I want things to be better, you’re right. And we all play a part in improving it. Right now I actually work in solar power infanstructure, is that pathetic? I vote against fossil fuels, and I am happy my country is cutting off gas and forcing people to be more electric.

            Individual action, while laudable, will not help without systemic change, which you are too scared to advocate for.

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              1 hour ago

              So wait, what things make me a pathetic coward? Could you make a list?

              And if it is only relating to fossil fuels, I’d wager 99.99% of the population doesn’t want fossil fuels to be banned without replacements or serious societal change. Does that make 99.99% of people also pathetic cowards?

              Then who goes first? Do we all agree at once to stop using? Or will militaries be exempted because you and I both know that no government is sabotaging their own power.

              How would country’s that export oil react do you think? Certain economies almost entirely depend on it, do they just cease to exist at once?

              Would there be exceptions for agriculture or would some communities have to starve to death?

              What about exemptions for building the replacing technology, or should we cease to use power at all and ration what remains?

              There is more complexity to the issue you deem so simple to fix. If you had complete control of the world, how would you go about eliminating fossil fuels without being guillotined by 8 billion people?

              • Saledovil@sh.itjust.works
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                48 minutes ago

                So wait, what things make me a pathetic coward?

                It’s not the fact that you don’t have power, it’s the how you’d yield it if you had it. Because even if you’d have power, you’d be too scared to yield it. Want to prove me wrong? Answer me this: How do you think global warming should be solved? Or outline how society could be improved in general? Up to now, you only told me how you’d not solve global warming. Only told me of things you’d avoid doing. Show me some things you’d do if you had power of an absolutist monarch.