Rooftop solar continues to take a big bite out of the business and operating model of Australia’s main grid, hitting new output records on Sunday and sending minimum demand records tumbling across the country.
According to data provider GPE NEMLog, rooftop solar PV hit a new peak of 48.6 per cent of total generation at 1.50pm (AEST) on Sunday, breaking the previous record of 48.4 per cent it had set at the start of the month.
But more importantly for the grid operators and competing technologies, it helped push operating demand across the National Electricity Market down to a new low of 11,009 MW, down around 215 MW from its previously low, also set on October 1.
Record shares of rooftop solar and operational demand were also set in Victoria, where rooftop PV hit a new peak of 60.1per cent of generation and sent operational demand down below 2GW for the first time to a new minimum of 1915 MW.
Rooftop solar also hit a new record share in NSW – the country’s biggest state grid – with 50.4 per cent, the first time it has contributed more than half of generation, and also set a new low for operational demand in NSW of 3664 MW, down 200 MW from the previous low. NSW still has more than 8GW of coal generation.
Tumbling operational demand levels usually means bad news for coal generators, which often get squeezed out of the market and have to bid down towards the market floor (minus $1,000/MWh) to keep running. They reckon it is cheaper to pay someone else to take the output than to switch off.
In South Australia, however, there are no coal generators left in the system – the last one closed in 2016 – and so the biggest victim of high rooftop solar PV outputs is usually utility scale solar.
On Sunday, the output from utility scale solar fell to less than one megawatt in the middle of the day as more than 455 MW of utility scale (a new record) was curtailed.
Unlike coal fired power stations, solar projects reckon its cheaper to switch off than to pay someone else to take the output. And some are obliged to do so anyway under the terms of their contracts.
There has been a slew of renewable energy share records in the grid across the last few months – spring is often the “record season” because of the good conditions for wind and solar farms and relatively mild weather. And each year the numbers are boosted by new additions to the grid.
Earlier last week, the share of renewables across the NEM hit a new instantaneous record of 72.5 per cent, and wind and solar alone hit a new peak of 70.8 per cent.
The level of “potential” renewables also hit a new peak – potential means actual output plus curtailed capacity – and reached more than 101 per cent of demand in one five minute period, and 98.5 per cent in one half hour period.
In South Australia, the records have been even more dramatic, with rooftop solar alone providing more than 100 per cent of demand, operational demand hitting a new low of 21 MW (over 30 minute period and negative over a 5 minute period), and “potential” renewables (just wind and solar) hitting a new peak of 264 per cent of demand.
In response, more batteries are being built, other longer duration storage technologies such as solar thermal are being considered, and the South Australia is also betting big on green hydrogen, where the use of electrolysers and hydrogen-powered generators can help lift minimum demand, and respond to peak demand issues.
At this point I think you’re crazy if you don’t have solar on the roof. Why buy electricity when you can get it almost for free?
Even rentals - landlords are allowed to raise the rent by more than the cost of installing the panels, and tenants will save thousands of dollars on their electricity bill, meaning they stand to gain just as much financially as the landlord even after paying extra rent.
Old roof, too much shade. Lots of reasons.
My roof is over 30 years old and has shade, installing solar was cheap (they took 4 hours) and despite the shade generates more power than I can use.
Apartment buildings unfortunately add a layer of complication. It’s not always insurmountable depending on the building type but even so not as straightforward as throwing a few solar panels on the roof.
Not sure about other states, but in QLD you are required to “request consent” from the body corporate but it is illegal for them to say no. The only option the body corp has is to instruct you where to put the panels and even then, they have to be reasonable - for example if there’s no space on the roof above your apartment, maybe because it’s full of panels already, they have to allow you to put panels somewhere else such as on common property.
That becomes difficult in multistory buildings, where the roof could not accommodate all solar energy panels dedicated to specific lots, and if you are on the ground floor it gets difficult. Many buildings really don’t have anywhere else to put them.
Then it becomes a case of solar panels as “common property” and that’s when things get really messy.
If there is an “exterior surface” that doesn’t currently have a solar panel on it, then any apartment owner is allowed to install a panels on it.
Body corporate can instruct the tenant to install the panels somewhere else instead, and they can block a single apartment from covering the entire complex in panels but they cannot refuse a reasonable request which includes installing panels on a section of roof above someone else’s apartment or on a car park roof. Pretty sure you can even install panels on the walls, though it wouldn’t get much sun unless it’s a sky scraper.
You can’t block them and it’s not difficult - you just ask an electrician to draw up an installation plan, which is usually free, then email that plan to the body corporate. If the body corporate refuses, then you can report them to the council and the council will give them a legally binding order to approve the plan - unless the proposal is totally unreasonable. There’s basically no work at all for the owner of the apartment.
Also - you’re massively overestimating how many panels are needed. For most of the day our house draws 300 watts. A single solar panel produces more than that. You can probably fit enough panels hundreds or even thousands of apartments on the roof of a large apartment building.
Yes - sometimes we draw 2000 watts, but only briefly - the entire building is never going to draw that much power from every apartment at the same time. Even if they do, so what. It’s still significantly reducing the amount of power drawn from the grid… and during the day these days about half the grid power is from solar (with more being installed every day).
Unlike coal fired power stations, solar projects reckon its cheaper to switch off than to pay someone else to take the output.
Well, yes, that’s because they can actually just switch off and on. Solar doesn’t need to spend time and energy heating up before it’s able to resume producing power.
He we see end of stable grid. Check you petrol generators, guys.
This is kinda like comments from the alien site circa 2010 which have aged pretty badly.
“20% renewables is the absolute maximum that can be achieved, anything over that will result in Armageddon!!!”.
I still see people acting like nuclear is the only solution, despite the absolutely massive improvements since then. And even then it was myopic and already becoming out of date.
The nuke fanboys don’t live in reality and haven’t done so since the 1970s.
Quite opposite nuclear went long way since 70s.
Pretty sure it was 1986 that killed it, though 2011 didn’t help!
Both are irrelevant in modern days. nuclear went long way since 70s. For RMBK it is even 60s
Grid scale batteries and the repercussions from the SA blackout have mostly dealt to that. Plus, Aus has a sizeable amount of hydro and pumped hydro that can act as spinning mass, reserve, and synchronous condensers very effectively.
Excess power covereth a multitude of sins. 500MW of curtailed utility scale PV likely means that the grid is rock, rock solid.
What do you mean under “Grid scale batteries and the repercussions from the SA blackout have mostly dealt to that.” From my best knowledge there is no grid scale batteries except SA one. Am I wrong? And SNOW 2 is pretty much all we can build. Not to mention it will be ecological disaster when it commissioned.
Australia has over 120 of hydro plants and more are being built… Snowy 2 is high profile but it’s far from the most impressive project we have.
Our biggest project is the Pioneer-Burdekin Pumped Hydro Project in northern QLD, which when it’s finished will be the largest “pumped” hydro dam in the world. That plant will pump water uphill into the dam during the day and let water flow back out overnight.
They’re starting the project with smaller generators but there’s long term scope (as in, the amount of water it holds is big enough) for the plant to generate 5GW of power. To put it in perspective, QLD has about 3.5GW of coal power plants currently in operation - which is more than any other state.
As for ecological disasters… coal is like a thousand times worse in that regard.
Also… hydro isn’t going to be our only source of overnight power. There are hydrogen plants coming on board - you can use electricity, from solar, to generate hydrogen during the day, then use hydrogen to generate power overnight. More expensive than building a big ass dam, but for cities that don’t have a mountain range nearby it’s an affordable option. SA and WA are investing heavily in hydrogen.
Hydrogen also has the advantage that you can fill a ship with it and send it anywhere in the world, just like coal.
I would normally say that anything involving hydrogen is a terrible plan, but if you’re considering curtailing a GW of generation on a regular basis, well, you might as well do something with it.
I think partly this shows how much work needs to be done on reactive demand. NZ has historically had (and still has) much cheaper energy at night, which is typical for most places. We’d need to see that incentive reversed eventually to encourage soaking up the midday excess and minimize storage.
This really needs to be manageable without human intervention (on the demand side), and with the ability for schedules to change week-by-week and day-by-day in reaction to non-controllable load.
There are currently 3.5 million solar panel installations in Australia with a total capacity of 32 Gigawatts and there are there are thousands of new ones being brought online each day.
The daily peak nationwide demand for power is about 30 Gigawatts. Add wind and hydro (and many of our hydro plants are on rivers or creeks, not lakes, so they generate power 24/7/365 - not just at night)… and the country has already reached the point where Australia is generating far more power than it can use. Almost double in fact, when you also add non-renewable generators that can’t be switched off every day - coal plants often need a week to gradually power down and another week to gradually warm back up to operating temperature.
At the moment, all of that excess power just goes nowhere. It’s not being used… Totally makes sense to use electrolysis to generate hydrogen. Especially since hydrogen can be transported around so easily. Just 1kg of hydrogen provides 33kWh of power. To put that in perspective, that’s about the same power as a 300kg lithium battery.
Hydrogen was a dead end for cars, but it makes a lot of sense for other use cases. Cargo ships for example will likely switch to hydrogen.
Side note: I just found out that there’s a ‘Big battery’ in Victoria, too.
Do you have any data to back up that claim? Rhetorical question, BTW.
It was rhetorical question to start some flame wars. Sorry. But problem is still there.
So you’re trying start a flame war and not really defend your point with evidence?
Not going to happen… For starters, people are switching to EV’s slowly which can help the grid, and we’ll likely see widescale adoption of battery storage before this happens.
Your downvoters have never had to provide their own electricity, nor do they have a notion of the electrical grid scale and what disruptions mean.
I’m 52 and in NW FL. Just experienced my first brown out. Really weird to have “half ass” power. Now I’m not blaming it on all the recent, local, solar projects, not at all. Just saying, brown outs are what happens when a decades-old, perfectly stable infrastructure is perturbed.
Not saying it’s not worth it! Certainly worth suffering the consequences of ditching fossil fuels. But be prepared to suffer a great deal in this new world we’re figuring out. And don’t bitch! It’s part of the hand you were dealt. Play your hand.
I’m a downvoter and have off grid solar and am using such power to talk to you right now. Checkmate. We only lose power when it storms for more than 3 days but if we had more batteries we would be fine. We have less power outages than our street, so I don’t believe in the stability of the grid
