What do you run; Opnsense, pfsense, Smoothwall, maybe a WAF like wazuh?
Today was update/audit firewall day. I’m running a standalone instance of pFsense on a Protectli Vault FW4B - 4 Port - Intel Quad Core - 8GB RAM - 120GB mSATA SSD with unbound, pfBlockerNG, Suricata, ntopng, and heavily filtered. I did bump the swap to 8 GB as I’ve previously noticed a few ‘out of swap’ errors under load.
Before I signed off, I ran it through a couple porn sites to see if my adblocking strategy was working. Not one intrusive ad. Sweet!
Show me what you got.
Nothing fancy, old ubiquiti gateway with a dedicated pihole server for my DNS.
Same. What’s the deal with having elaborate firewall stuff for a normal family home anyway?
If the built in stuff isn’t good enough then 99.9% of households would be compromised a long time ago already.
Some of it is for fun and testing, learning. Which I used to do. I used to have an old watchdog that I put pfsense on, just don’t need it nowadays.
Once i learn how it works and have run through the setup, I move on. Just need to spend my time in other areas, but now I have an understanding of it and can apply that logic or idea to other things and troubleshooting.
Opnsense on a thin client, riser with a quad port Intel NIC.
Pfsense guy here, and professionally Palo alto guy. Can someone tl;dr the purpose of blockerng and suricata? I thought I remember the Lawrence systems folks mentioning using it for IPS but with segmentation at home “human” IPS seems more relevant than digital
- Suricata: Open source IDS/IPS
- PfBlockerNG: Used to block ads, malicious content, and manage access based on IP geolocation and domain names. It provides features like DNS-based blocking
Some of the features of both overlap which might not be a bad thing.
OpenWRT on a Linksys router, with adguard home for DNS blocking.
I used to run OPNSense on some older x86 hardware, but wanted to move to something simpler and less power hungry.
I use firewalld with a script that automatically updates a blocklist of known shady IPs.
I think I have the same protectli as you and it is awesome. Need it for my 2.5gb uplink. I use openwrt on it… Didn’t really like opnsense. I am more used to linux than bsd.
I host lots of services and get bombarded by scrapers, scanners, and skids both at home and on my VPSs.
I use ipset for the usual blocklists which I download regularly. I also have tarpits on 22/tcp (endlessh). I pipe the IPs from the endlessh logs into fail2ban which feeds the ipsets. I have ipset blocks and fail2ban on my home firewall and all VPSs and coordinate over mqtt. So
any fail2ban trigger > mqtt > every ipset block. Touch my 22/tcp anywhere and you get banned instantly everywhere. The program I use for this is called vallumd and it runs on openwrt.I also put maltrail everywhere but I’m not totally sure how to interpret and respond to the results. Probably will implement a pipe from maltrail to my mqtt > blocklist setup.
I don’t do any network-level adblocking… Might be a future project.
I think I have the same protectli as you and it is awesome
Yes it is. It was a little more than I wanted to spend, and I’m sure I could have gone with a cheaper configuration, but I figured I’d get something with a little ass to it as to not create a bottleneck right at the firewall.
I host lots of services and get bombarded by scrapers, scanners, and skids both at home and on my VPSs. Touch my 22/tcp anywhere and you get banned instantly everywhere.
I too host most of the services I use on a couple of VPS I run. It has always amazed me as to the thickness of the bot layer on the internet. Clearnet experiences something like 2+ zetabytes per 24 hours. Around 50% of that is bot traffic, and they are very sophisticated bots as well. Open port 22 and here they come by the thousands like a feeding frenzy. I went as far as blocking everything with hosts.allow (do first) & hosts.deny (do last). I’ve set f2b on aggressive mode with only one shot. LOL UFW rocks in the background along with Crowdsec. I probably go overboard with security. LOL
I’ve been using Ufw but airvpn’s kill switch seems to override it, should i be using something else?
I have found that a lot of VPN kill switches interfere with other security measures. For instance, I use tailscale on my VPS. I also run a local VPN. If I have the kill switch on the local VPN engaged, it interferes with tailscale and I cannot ssh in to my VPS. So, a not so elegant solution for me is to disengage the local VPN’s kill switch for that session, and then re-enable it after I am finished administering my VPS. After which I will do a DNS leak check to make sure everything is as it was. Takes a couple of quick steps, but it seems to work.
Show me what you got.
you’re doing the same thing i am, so there’s not point. lol
Yeah, but you got charts n’ graphs and a big writeup. Nice job.
pfSense on this:
https://a.co/d/6WpafWQI also block outgoing port 53 only allowing my Pihole through.
I use Tailscale to access the network while away.
Do you run unbound on pFsense?
No my pfSense setup is fairly minimal
nftables. Deny all, start adding stuff until þings work.
My firewalls are simple, b/c I run a private VPN and just shut off all traffic except over WG. I’ve got one exposed VPS reverse proxying services from oþer VPSes over WG.
But: nftables, and only nftables. I’m a big believer in understanding how stuff works, and þe rulesets created by firewalld and ilk are convoluted - complexity adds risk.
Haha, I thought that said “until pings work”
Also an accurate reading.
Rock on!
Opnsense on protectlii. Nothing but love.
Protectli
I love my Protectli. I tried Opnsense. Seemed to be a well put together piece of open source software by people really who care. There’s nothing wrong with it. Does what it says on the tin. I guess I just liked the flow of pFsense. They both acomplish the same thing. I am aware of the pro’s and the cons of each. pFsense just appealed to me more.
Opnsense with unbound DNS here. Running on an old PC that got converted to dedicated firewall (with added NIC card for ports). Nothing crazy, just enough to control what communicates out of my network.
Used to do the same thing with an old PC. Hell, at one time I was running one off a laptop with USB to RJ45 adapters for the WAN/LAN ports.
OpenBSD pf
Edit: just home/hobby now, I’m not in tech anymore.
OpenBSD pf
I’d never heard of it so I went and checked it out. It seems to have a lot of pFsense/Opnsense features just managed from the cli. Cool.
It’s the ‘pf’ in pfSense.
pf is developed as part of the OpenBSD project and is the built in packet filter/firewall.
Also this. On some unremarkable HP office PC that’s probably about a decade old. No ad filtering or anything as it interferes with others in the house. I’ve thought about trying a second unbound service with adblocking for me, but haven’t gotten around to it.
I run a secondary wifi network with “Ads” in its name, whose vlan doesn’t get forced into pihole DNS. It mostly prevents me from having to hear complaints from others in the house, and they barely ever use it.
No ad filtering or anything as it interferes with others in the house
Ahhh the WAF (Wife Aceptance Factor). I made a seperate Vlan for my lady friend so when she comes over to visit, I don’t have to reinvent the wheel for her. She can have all the ads and slop she can stomach, just keep it on your seperate branch and we’ll both be happy.
Opnsense on dedicated device, several built in filters + several github backed filters for unbounddns.
Haven’t tested it heavily, but the times I am on an outside network not using VPN into my network, or using TOR, etc, i am inundated with ads… So i guess successful internally.
outside network not using VPN … i am inundated with ads…
I swear I do not know how the regular Joe Schmoe internet user deals with all that clutter. Sometimes I am called by a friend to look at their computer for some issue they are having. It is mind bogglingly frustrating for me.
I run IPFire on a PC Engines apu4d4 (https://pcengines.ch/apu4d4.htm). I use dynDNS, WireGuard and set up a DMZ with it. I also have a WiFi card installed und use hostAPD to run that.
I think they stopped producing them because the AMD SOC they used is EOL. I was a big fan of their open platform.
