• Darkard@lemmy.world
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    21 hours ago

    These fucking slack jawed brainlets still haven’t come to terms with the fact that Kirk’s killer was one of their own.

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        I haven’t seen any hard evidence he was a full-on leftist, but I haven’t seen any hard evidence he was maga either.

        From what I’ve seen, he was definitely left of his parents, but there’s a whole lot of different ideologies to the left of maga.

        I think the only way we’ll know for sure his ideology is if he says so.

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                  Someone who is scientifically illiterate to plead someone else’s argument is far less bad as being so ideologically blinded as to be incapable of accepting that ‘a’ thing was done by your tribe!

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                    I once saw a guy on LSD running around the NYC streets in his underpants after a Shpongle concert back in '10. He made more sense than you do.

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                What?

                You asked for statistics, and here are the statistics.

                And spiking a flat-earther isn’t the flex you think it is. I could probably spike a 2nd grader, but I wouldn’t brag about doing it.

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                  Statistics don’t give any evidence about the ideology of any particular shooting. The statistics say that around 20% are done by people on the left.

                  That’s nowhere near close enough to confidently state Robinson wasn’t on the left.

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                  I could not comprehend why anyone would use that word there… Do you think it would be an intelligent thing to say that black people must be behind crime ‘a’ or say this crime, because statistically they commit more crime? Oh, but this nonsense must work in your proposition because its in favor of your rhetoric!

                  That was not a flex, it was an insult :))

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                    I could not comprehend

                    You could have stopped there.

                    Click links, read links. The information is there for you, if you’d take a moment to learn.

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        /s?

        He was raised Mormon in a full MAGA family, and nearly all photos show him surrounded with rifles.

        He may have been confused, and I can buy he went libertarian, but if he was a leftist, I’ll eat my hat on camera.

        e: oh no, it wasn’t /s, judging by your other comments. That’s just sad.

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            You seem to be projecting your ‘scream-cry’ onto me, when all I did was give you the statistics you asked for.

            I’ll not hold your hand when you can’t click links and read, and I’ll not entertain your childish soliloquies.

            Type another inane dissertation all you like – I didn’t sign up here to be an elementary school teacher.

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              You read the comment thread in which someone else posted links, but not my response to that… Superb

              Yea, dismiss my argument and do pretend that you didn’t read the exerts from the bbc article that delved into his presumed beliefs! Kinda happy you fuck off, you have nothing to contribute

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                19 hours ago

                Sigh. My comment, my links.

                Here, I’ll post it again, since you seem to be a bit in need of coffee or something:

                Yes, statistically.

                Based on government and independent analyses, right-wing extremist violence has been responsible for the overwhelming majority of fatalities, amounting to approximately 75% to 80% of U.S. domestic terrorism deaths since 2001.

                Want to claim the government and independent studies are fake again?

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                  You think I am going to memorize usernames? And why aren’t you responding to my question that I posed to your brilliant argument? Why don’t you think that black people committed this crime? They are statistically more likely to do so

                  Also, aren’t you the pup who claimed the one source I have been posting again and agaon is not from the bbc…? You are! Who is having issues opening and reading links?

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                    Because I spent the time to give you actual information and you’ve ignored it. I had enough respect to at least notice who I was talking to – I’m sorry you didn’t have the same courtesy. I didn’t even downvote you, though you’ve downvoted me.

                    Why should I respect your time and comments when you’ve proven you don’t respect mine?

                    eta: and where did I claim your source wasn’t from the BBC? I said it was irrelevant and wasn’t the link we were talking about at the time. You’re clearly not listening at all.

                    In fact, I’ve wasted too much time with you already. Don’t bother replying. Or if you do, enjoy shouting into the void.

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              Yup, saying all thoae facts that are against the interest of your political party makes me an American and right wing

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                  Oh love can you bend backwards a little harder so that you finally break your spine and I finally won’t have to listen to you throwing a tantrum? I would really appreciate it!

                  Quoting from a bbc article is not evidence anymore…

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                    Not when the article is just citing what the police say without corroboration, no it isn’t. But as we’ve already discussed, you aren’t interested in the truth, and I’m just gonna keep laughing at you.

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              Hey now, let’s not judge them as American. They might be a member of the German AFD party!

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          The bbc is now right wing fake news…

          • “Robinson’s mother said her son had started to lean more to the left, Utah County Attorney Jeff Gray told a news conference on Tuesday, “becoming more pro-gay and trans-rights orientated””

          +2 Proud republican behavior: “Public records reviewed by the BBC suggest Robinson had in the past registered as an unaffiliated, or nonpartisan, voter in Utah. His parents, Matthew Carl Robinson and Amber Denise Robinson, are registered Republicans, according to state records”

          +3 Common republican things “Authorities have said the unnamed roommate was a “biological male” who was transitioning from man to woman and was in a romantic relationship with the defendant.”

          Source: https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cp8wl2y66p9o.amp

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          Okay to be fair, I have a realistic Doug Ford (corrupt Conservative Premier of Ontario) mask that I love adding to random halloween costumes. I hate the guy with a passion and am very much on the left but I still find it funny

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            If it’s one of those realistic latex masks, it does sound terrifying – like how the Captain Kirk mask was used for Mike Meyers in Halloween.

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          Do you guys dress up as people you look up for to an event where you supposedly scare people into giving you candy?

          • “Robinson’s mother said her son had started to lean more to the left, Utah County Attorney Jeff Gray told a news conference on Tuesday, “becoming more pro-gay and trans-rights orientated””

          +2 Proud republican behavior: “Public records reviewed by the BBC suggest Robinson had in the past registered as an unaffiliated, or nonpartisan, voter in Utah. His parents, Matthew Carl Robinson and Amber Denise Robinson, are registered Republicans, according to state records”

          +3 Common republican things “Authorities have said the unnamed roommate was a “biological male” who was transitioning from man to woman and was in a romantic relationship with the defendant.”

          Source: https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cp8wl2y66p9o.amp

          Yea, your rights he was probably a republican! Well not because of the evidence but because it would kinda sound funny if another right wing monkey were shot by their voters

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            ‘More to the left’ of MAGA is not ‘leftist’, ffs. That whole family is deep MAGA, so more to the left isn’t even necessary centrist. Libertarian, maybe, or still far right, but thinks LGBTQ people might be people.

            Are you even paying attention? Do you think trans people, women, and immigrants deserve rights? Answer honestly.

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              These are the only information we have on which we can take a gander to his beliefs, which point to him being a leftist

              On what do you base that he is anything else?

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                You said ‘leftist’, and you made claims about that based on what his grandmother said.

                I said coming from a MAGA family, ‘drifting left’ doesn’t necessarily mean ‘leftist’. Compared to MAGA, ‘moving left’ can mean anything from libertarian to centrist. That’s not a claim, it’s calling you on your claim.

                We don’t yet know anything about him other than his family is MAGA and Mormon, so let’s not speculate what his beliefs are, eh?

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                  Mother, now now someone is even struggling with reading exerts from a source…

                  Coming from a background is almost as weak sauce as your statistics argument

                  Aaaaaaah, so now we go from he is ‘right wing ‘to lets not speculate… If we go by facts researched provided by an actually neutral party, that of the british national news source, we can only assume that he was left leaning and by his action that he is an extremist! Just because he did something you actually don’t disagree with I reckon, but is disadvantageous for your group does not give you the right to decide his political beliefs

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        There’s a thing called “Poe’s Law” that states “without a clear indicator of the author’s intent, any parodic or sarcastic expression of extreme views can be mistaken by some readers for a sincere expression of those views.”

        So your “joke” relies on the idea that zero rightwing nutjobs will read it as encouragement. Which is just highly unlikely.

        It’s very difficult to joke about extremism online because there’ll almost always be extremists who take it as encouragement. To them, you’re indistinguishable from any other MAGA supporter.

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          Its not a joke, on the information available to us I am led to believe that he was a leftist!

          What they have in the Us, in terms of political ideologies, cannot be considered leftism by an stretch of the word! Alas, I would have no insecurities if one of my tribesmen were to do something I disagree with

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            So you’re on the other end of Poe’s law, an extremist with an incoherent viewpoint.

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              Its extremism to believe that a person on whom all information available points to him leaning to left being someone who leans to the left… I reckon I am an extremist

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                “All information available” is apparently one BBC article that you keep posting over and over, while calling numerous articles and studies on the ideology of most domestic terrorists “made up,” and the conclusions you draw from your one single source an “assumption.” Gosh that’s some irrefutable evidence you’ve got there chief. 🙄

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                  -Yea, thats all the info we have available! You are welcome to post more, though I reckon you would have if you had any more!

                  -What studies did I call made up again?