Is this a faithful recreation of the version of Graham’s Hierarchy of Disagreement with 2 additional bottom levels?

  • jrs100000@lemmy.world
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    2 days ago

    Wheres the one for refuting a point that was not actually made and then pretending that was the central point?

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      2 days ago

      The chart does not cover fallacies like strawman arguments. Perhaps that’s around a corner of the “pyramid”, on a side not shown.

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        1 day ago

        i’d say fallacies in general are the same kinda thing as as hominem attacks… things that muddy the waters without even trying to address the point

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          18 hours ago

          I suppose fallacies could exist at any level… … except the bottom two (since they’re not really offering an argument at all)… and perhaps, arguably, at the top. That’s a tricky one though… could a point be centrally refuted, fallaciously?

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            16 hours ago

            i’m not sure that it could exist at most other levels… perhaps tone and name calling, but im not sure that the contradiction level is a fallacy: there’s no active intent there (not that active intent is required; i’m just not sure of the words right now)

            like you’re stating the opposite case but that’s not intending to mislead exactly, and simply doing so isn’t harmful to the dialogue - it’s just not super helpful

            i think it’s an action rather than a tactic, if that makes sense?

      • jrs100000@lemmy.world
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        1 day ago

        Your suggestion that men are made out of pyramids is laughable and logically flawed.

        Check and mate.