The Swedish activist Greta Thunberg has been detained by Israel and reportedly maltreated by her Israeli captors after she was kidnapped, along with hundreds of other activists, from Gaza’s territorial waters on Friday.
The liberal establishment always abandons effective fellow liberals. Sanders, Mamdani, Thunberg…they’re actually trying to do something. That makes the established neolibs look ineffective and upsets their donors. So they turn their backs on the rabble rousers.
The current anger with Sanders appears to be, from an outsiders pov, that he didn’t criticize Israel by calling it a genocide soon enough.
That appears to be it.
I mean. To dismiss everything because one mistake, even if that mistake is massive, and then correcting that mistake, if belatedly, to me, says something very positive about that politician.
I’d prefer it was immediate, and it’s gross that it took him so long, but all the other stuff isn’t cancelled out by that. He’s still a net positive. And he DID criticize earlier than any other us politician I can think of, and sure it
Could have been even earlier and harsher, but like. Fuck. If you hate politicians for being open to changing mind based on new evidence, or reforming beliefs you don’t like, or admitting mistakes, you are AGAINST them being rational and it plays right into the hands of neoliberal propagandists.
I mean. To dismiss everything because one mistake, even if that mistake is massive, and then correcting that mistake, if belatedly, to me, says something very positive about that politician.
even if it’s clear that he’s been doubling down on that mistake when presented with the evidence and then only switched it’s become clear that the tide has begun turn?
There’s more, he criticized protests against ICE in LA turning into riots, and had some nice things to say about Kirk after he was killed.
That said I think it’s really unproductive for people to turn on him after he was a big spark in a movement and is still outspoken. He has irritated me a few times lately but he’s still one of the most influential leaders.
The liberal establishment always abandons effective fellow liberals. Sanders, Mamdani, Thunberg…they’re actually trying to do something. That makes the established neolibs look ineffective and upsets their donors. So they turn their backs on the rabble rousers.
The current anger with Sanders appears to be, from an outsiders pov, that he didn’t criticize Israel by calling it a genocide soon enough.
That appears to be it.
I mean. To dismiss everything because one mistake, even if that mistake is massive, and then correcting that mistake, if belatedly, to me, says something very positive about that politician.
I’d prefer it was immediate, and it’s gross that it took him so long, but all the other stuff isn’t cancelled out by that. He’s still a net positive. And he DID criticize earlier than any other us politician I can think of, and sure it Could have been even earlier and harsher, but like. Fuck. If you hate politicians for being open to changing mind based on new evidence, or reforming beliefs you don’t like, or admitting mistakes, you are AGAINST them being rational and it plays right into the hands of neoliberal propagandists.
even if it’s clear that he’s been doubling down on that mistake when presented with the evidence and then only switched it’s become clear that the tide has begun turn?
Better late than never?
Would you rather the kind of politician that just lies constantly?
There’s more, he criticized protests against ICE in LA turning into riots, and had some nice things to say about Kirk after he was killed.
That said I think it’s really unproductive for people to turn on him after he was a big spark in a movement and is still outspoken. He has irritated me a few times lately but he’s still one of the most influential leaders.
This is where there really is a distinction between “liberal” and “leftist” or “progressive.”
I would not call any of those three people “liberals.”
These three people and neoliberals don’t have anything in common. They’ll stand at opposite ends of almost every political spectrum imaginable.