reddit suppresses leftist message, outside of center right. now it allows more astroturfing from the right through israel and russia. and were not talking about the extremes like tankies.
A friend of mine always says “Averages are a poor measure of a population. For example: I have more than the average number of legs for a human.”
Depends, the average .world user is roughly equivalent to the average Reddit user. However I would say the average blahaj or db0 user is significantly further left.
Yeah the average blahaj user believes trans rights are human rights and that’s too much for some communities to handle
Ikr, some communities really do be saying “erm akshurally we need to compromise”. Mfr what? These are my basic human rights
world is probably the ones that were on political or news subs that got banned or “astroturfed” and came to worlds to do the same.
Further weird, yes.
Yes. Like extremely
Before or after reddit started capitulating to fascists and mass bans?
capitulated to MUSK like 2 times, which resulted in 2 massive ban waves. earlier in the year. we also know spez loves MUSk and the gop.
I just got banned for 7 days from Reddit for “threatening violence” for saying the Trump administration deserves the death penalty (which is an actual thing that exists legally in the US) and that the GOP should be dissolved.
A few days ago, an AskReddit thread led me to a group where men were promoting rape and violence against women. Reddit did not ban that.
You tell me.
EDIT: Something funny from the message they sent me: “Reddit is a place for creating community and belonging, not for threatening violence against people or animals.” I wish they’d clarify whether it was people or animals that I threatened. It continues “Any communities or people that threaten violence towards an individual, group, animals, or place will be banned.” Not the one where a bunch of dudes were promoting rape, though.
Something similar happened to me like 2 - 3 days ago. I legit didn’t use it for over 2 years, and then a couple of months ago someone hacked the account and made it a porn thing. I didn’t want that associated to any email address that was mine, so I “re-claimed” the account, and removed all of the porn. I barely ever post on there, but I was drunk and said something along the lines of what you said in one of the leftish subreddits. I didn’t get banned, but I got a warning. Fuck that. Warn my nuts.
Funny, I saw a post on Reddit just yesterday from someone who got porn-hacked. Hackers are hornier than they used to be
Me, I wasn’t drunk. I was provoked. Pretty sure that legally I’m bulletproof given the circumstance (it was a reaction to far-right ragebait being on the White House website)
Well since reddit pretends to be far right (and full of bots which is another topic but also renders reddit fake & useless), and most of us are here because Reddit was intolerant of our defiance to adhere to its right-wingedness, yeah I’d say fediverse is left. We’re free people who refuse to have our free-thinking & free speech squashed.
reddits trying to replace it with AI bots, much like facebook is right now. a hybrid child of facebook and Xitter.
Yes. The average reddit user NOW is further right than the average reddit user before the start of lemmy. Different people. The most left ones are with lemmy now.
reddit heavily allows astroturfing and banning from the “left” more than the right.
also because they banned or astroturfed to hell. right wing propaganda is very popular for the masses, and creates content.
When I stooped to check out the r/conservative subreddit after Kirk’s murder, it amused me how many of it’s denizens were bemoaning how bad ‘redditors’ were, as if they weren’t also on reddit.
I don’t go to reddit very much any more. 'Tis a silly place.
and they are also in the most exclusive echo chamber on reddit too. they tried to branch out with disengenious "both sides " subs, but i dont think it can match r/conservative and r/conspiracy, since they are the cesspools for other the banned right wing subs. i have never seen an exclusive “left leaning sub” on the site, that wasnt astroturfed by right wingers. city/states specific subs are taken over by right wingers or tankies to the specific location.
I don’t think Lemmy is large enough to have had a noticeable impact on the makeup of Reddit.
I don’t think Lemmy is large enough to have had a noticeable impact on the makeup of Reddit.
I would not say that it is only lemmy. Reddit itself has changed, and that’s why I think there are different people there.
Not even some moisturiser?
Lemmy didn’t but reddit marketing campaign, and new front page algorithm drew a new public. Sure they banned the totally not nazi edge lord and Trump hardcore far, but they attracted the I don’t care about politic, vote for a personality but never left public too which you add the hordes of pro Russia/Israel troll/bots at the point the world news sub is unreadable
Only western far right subs are quelled. Indian right wing subreddits literally openly talk about lebonsbrauming my country and taking our land. Saw an open discourse on a random Indian sub of a dude saying they should give the “Felani treatment” to Bangladeshis. Felani was a 15 year old child shot by Indian border guard btw.
Just now saw a bullshit infographic on r/mapporn showing “islamization” of Bangladesh when its quite literally population increase. East Bengal had been Muslim majority since the British and the partition led to many minorities leaving. I wont make excuses for religious fundamentalists in my country but religious fundamentalism is a topic where INDIAN RIGHT WINGERS shouldn’t lecture anyone. Of course this is without even delving into their mass propaganda campaign about every sigle facet of my cojntr started from the genocide WE FACED in 1971(chaddis somehow victimize themselves in a genocide we faced) and everything else.
Westerners upvote it blindly because they too are mostly islamophobic, liberals included.
Sorry for this random rant, Reddit is very very right-wing. You just are not familiar with the spaces that are.
World News specifically went bad but I don’t find Reddit as a while has changed. It’s still more left leaning, albeit it’s a large diverse platform where you can find almost any view.
But I mean on my local subreddit I got shouted down for criticizing Lenin so it’s still pretty left lol.
What about with rice?
because we all got banned from reddit for having controversial political views.
That’s an interesting take. I would have thought that reddit trended left previously and just shifted further left over time.
there is still some on the left, but it seems like its just for appearances by reddit, they allow enough to look fair, while they allow right wing propaganda to astroturf the comments of any subs to hell.
I am seeing open racism more than ever on reddit.
It probably has something to do with the type of crowd that reddit promotes. More controversial takes probably get boosted more because they draw more eyes for more time. They’re trying to copy Meta.
its alot things being called “woke”, whataboutism,etc. the bots trying to disguise it as a both sides issue mos tof the time.
Oh yea, I see a lot of anti-Muslim anti-Indian sentiments when it comes to immigration. I also saw anti-Chinese sentinments, as in actual Sinophobia, and not merely just anti-CCP/anti-PRC, and as someone who’s ethnic Chinese, I feel very uncomfortable with reddit.
coincides with the recent tariffs, and h1b visa issues, no doubt. which is likely being pushed by palintir, Israeli and russia.
People are so easily swayed by hate that’s marketed towards them.
Anti-Indian has been such a recent phenomenon. Indians were a model minority only a few years ago. Lol. “Look at them! Why can’t you be like them!”
And don’t you dare compliment any chinese military gear on defence subreddits.
Even with muslims - It’s been recent, more in the past 30 years than ever before.
Fucking losers. Dunk on others to feel better about their own pathetic lives.
The average Reddit user only exists on a server farm these days
Yes. Even putting aside what enshittification has done to the userbase in recent years, Reddit has always skewed Democrat, Fediverse skews leftist.
enshittification as in promoting more AI bots, and propaganda. consistent effort to curb the propaganda or right wing harmful comments have been met with significant resistance. yea reddit did do these regular purges to eliminate bots, but they seemed to have done less or stopped doing it altogether. instead thier purges were going after the lowest hanging fruits.
OF accounts, IRL users like us, the ones that drop links to thier businesses.
Reasonable
The average reddit user is a bot
u/WordWord_1234 Usernames are sus af fuck
Accounts whose profile page have urls starting with
reddit.com/uare also sus.xD
Can’t really judge an account by those generic usernames, because that’s the default format reddit generates unless a real human user decides to manually change it before locking it in.
That seems a lot like a reason to judge those accounts as not people? More than accounts that don’t match that format, anyway… Who uses an auto-generated username??
People can use auto-generated usernames if they want to. When I was new to Reddit, didn’t know I was allowed to change the username before it finalized.
Yes
Like, if I take a single user that I consider to exemplify each? Yes, the lemming will be left, socially and economically, of the redditor.
If we take a statistical average of each? The lemmy average will be screamingly farther left of the reddit average.
If we exclude bots and take the averages of only human users of each? Farther apart than the first but not nearly as far apart as the the second.
What am I basing this on? Multiple years of modding one of the larger not-explicity-political subs and also two explicitly political subs. So, vibes, basically, but lots of them over a long time.
Id agree. I spent around a decade on reddit and only about a month here. I think a big part of it is just the smaller user base on Lemmy. I’m personally a liberal but not a far left one. Noticing a particularly strong tilt here.
I’ve definitely had to block far more tankies here than right wingers. They are such an odd bunch. Never heard of them before I came here. They seem like a weird thought-experiment run amok.
same here, i think because right wingers are mostly defederated, or went back to REDDIT. THE TRIAD tankies know they are blocked, so they try to create new accounts on different instances to start thier spamming or trolling.
Eh, at least I never seen a comment telling me to “go back to [my] country” on Lemmy, so a slight improvement. The far right is way more nasty than the average tankie. Some tankies are just hillarious, especially like “Cowbee” parrotting ridiculous pro-CCP views, its like comic relief.
the far right uses alot of racist, bigoted way of arguing thats why. transphobia seems to thier choice of attack, or calling people libs are worst than the gop,etc.
I don’t understand tankies…
Like dude, it’s so clear russia and cccp are not left leaning! They are foremost self-serving!
This is like calling the Nazis left leaning because they had a few social policies.
Also, I mean I also like soviet aesthetics, it doesn’t mean that I am going to ass lick their authoritarian asses.
People lack nuance.
Its basically the opposite of Cuban Americans, who lived in a self-proclaimed “communist” regime and therefore hates anything remotely associated with “the left”, and thinks conservatism is somehow “pro-freedom”.
Tankies on the internet are mostly westerners who, because they disagree with the way their country does things, decides to hate everything about their country and “the west” in favor of the “other side”
It’s Campism
As a Chinese-American, I see through the bullshit of both China and the US, the different flavors of nationalism, I have my own experience in the first decade of my life there, as well as my relatives’ direct testimonies, including two of them who are my parents who, even tho has biases in worldview, generally has truthful information, and also my aunts who are still in China and has regular contact with my parents, and the various friends of my parent who frequently travel to and from China, that, along with my experience growing up in the US, I have a more knowledged worldview than either a Mainland Chinese who spent their entire life in China, or a Westerner who’ve never lived life in China from the PoV of a local.
I know that both countries have their issues, but I do know that, it’s a consensus amongst the Chinese Diaspora (those that I know, anyways) that western countries are typically better than whatever “communist” (which isn’t even communist, they are State Capitalist) thing they got going on in China. The west isn’t perfect, xenophobia and racism does exist, as always when you mix people from different backgrounds, but if you get over that hurdle, find somewhere relatively liberal/progressive, things are usually better. And also I know enough about what the acual economic system in the “communist” country is actually like, and not become an idiot that supports far-right “anti-communists” xenophobes, like… wtf people, stop siding against your own right to live in the country.
Most people don’t get the opportunity to live in both worlds, and lack of information is how people form those extremist views, either completely believes that their country is always right all the time, or completely believes their country is always wrong all the time and that therefore the other side is right. Reality is much more nuanced.
i feel like tankies never read a history or looked up on communism, USSR, cuba. just the fact they “are communist” was enough.
Tankies?
Authoritarian campist bootlickers pretending to be leftists. They have far more in common with the right wing than leftists and can often be found trying to defend Russia, China and North Korea. Lemmy’s developers are tankies.
they share the same talking points thats why. its almost always “lib this or that” or even calling it woke, although they dont use that word, they say something similar.
Yea, like ‘communists’ who have gone so far ‘left’ that they will stand by authoritarian regimes like China and the USSR despite evidence showing them to be abusive to citizens in similar ways to capitalism.
Anyways, farewell, for I must away again before they hunt me for sport like they did during the Russian revolution. (I am an anarchist, btw. Welcome to Lemmy)
USSR and ccp are more to the right than the left, but tankies dont know that.
yea, that’s what I was implying, hence the quotations around “communists” and “left” (technically I used apostrophies, but I use *nix, so same difference)
Ah, I see. Sounds like a shit group.
It’s the new word for “pinko.”
And it says exactly the same thing about the person using it.
Reddit is main-stream, so should be (and is) mostly centered. Lemmy is more niche and while it has some far right people, it overall leans left.
Right wing instances are usually quarantined(aka blocked, defederated) which doesnt exist on reddit, because they need all the divisiveness there is on reddit to drive the propaganda.
Lemmy is more niche and … overall leans left.
Like Reddit used to be in the good days.
that was prior to trumps 1st term, remember the subreddit apocalypse they started banning alot of subs that were “problematic”, it was just placating the GOP and trump who are obsessed with online censorhsip at a time, which was convenient distraction from thier “1st tax cuts”. thats when people were getting significant amount of bans around that time. i was there when r/conspiracy wasnt even political, just your usual conspiracies that have been talked about, that doesnt involved trump, or dems.
before the anti-vax madness of covid, that sub pre-pandemic allowed you to somewhat convince people who are hesitant of vaccines.
i remember reddit being full of techie libertarian bros in the 2000s. it non-authoritarian but it was pretty conservative socially. tons of fragile masculinity brogrammer types who had really warped views on women and ‘the government’.
it started diversifying rapidly in the early 2010s.
yucky, incels. where did they fled here? they probably were on instagram, facebook. one of the favorite refuges when someone is confronted about thier behavior on reddit they flee to facebook, where they can unilaterally delete messages, admin controls(when a community or a fan of a person/youtube channel).
i forgot the channel name, but i think finebros were confronted on reddits AMA about thier shilling for a company. they fled to facebook where they can have thier echochamber.
