Halfway through he describes this as malicious compliance with the “right to repair” law. Apple and others are making a mockery of the law.

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    Yeah, i watched the video and the dude just yap and yap and yap non-stop, and the actual content is only at the front of it.

    That trick works with all EPB, you can also take off the motor and turn the mechanism yourself, that’s how all backyard mechanic does it for every car with EPB without buying the tools meant for workshop. There’s nothing special to it. Dude could’ve save a lot by send it to dealership instead.

    Edit: also all car with EPB works that way, this is not uniquely hyundai, you need a scan tool to retract that piston, or you do it the way backyard mechanic do. There’s like so much unnecessary drama here.

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      you can also take off the motor and turn the mechanism yourself, that’s how all backyard mechanic does it for every car with EPB

      I’m a mechanic and no, you cannot do that

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      also all car with EPB works that way, this is not uniquely hyundai

      partial bullshit… it’s definitely a trend but 2 years ago I did the breaks on my buddy’s Ford Explorer 2021 (not 100% on the year). It had EPB but also a dash sequence to enable maintenance mode

      Hyundai is not the only brand for sure but the paywall is just unnecessary bullshit

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        Well maybe not all, but how many out of that 1 model have that maintenance mode? I work on many, none of them have it. Honda, toyota, subaru, vw, even chinese brand like geely, all required a scan tool. The good news? A generic scan tool is enough to set it, doesn’t have to be an expensive proprietary tool made just for that specific model that come with those bs. The bad news? Car maker only release it to aftermarket scanner after a few years or so, like the hyundai ionic 5 here.

        And even then, like i said, you can just unbolt the motor and turn the piston. 20 years in this industry, this is the first time there’s this much drama on basic shit like this.

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          agreed 100%

          ps: I re-read my original post and realized I came across as if I was fighting you… I just really wanted to point out this issue is a matter of greed and not a consequence of EPS tech

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      You sound pretty stupid. Even if you were right, this is wildly unnecessary to go through to change brakes. I’ve been changing my own brakes since I learned to drive and have never had to touch anything other than the wheels and brake pedals. Your take is wild.

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        It’s EPB, do you even know what is EPB? Projection much? The thing work exactly like this with home mechanic able to repair it no issue for years, now one idiot with no common sense decided to buy a super expensive tools that isn’t meant for them and still failed at the task at hand, then a manipulative youtuber decided this is a problem, and then suddenly this become a huge problem as if the world is ending.

        Edit: look, i know emotion is running high now because everyone favorite guy is wrong, but do yourself a favour and find out what EPB are, why it’s actually better and safer, and how long before you need to change your rear brake, not front brake, rear brake.

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          I never said you were stupid, I said you sound stupid. If I need anything other than a basic toolkit and replacement pads to change my brakes, that’s a problem to me. And yes, I do know what an EPB is, and I don’t like them. Like a lot of electronic systems, they can fail. I’ve driven a car that automatically engages the EPB when put in park and turning it off rarely worked as intended.

          Who’s stupid now? Neither of us, but you still sound stupid.

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            Well we all hope stuff can be as simple as abc but unfortunately this ain’t the world we live in, champ. Your take just sounds like you don’t like the stuff and anyone who disagree with you is stupid.

            If you didn’t have anything smart to say, i’ll take my leave then.

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        Anyone that doesn’t agree with you and the guy’s boot you’re licking is a bootlicker. Nice, it’s always projection. This place isn’t much different than reddit after all, full of idiots that know nothing but want to proof everything. Easily manipulated by the slimeball too it seems.

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      The drama is that this is an entirely unnecessary step that adds extra work for the technician/owner that wants to change rear brake pads/rotors, which are a wear item.

      I’ve been doing brakes on mine and my family’s cars for over a decade. It’s dramatically cheaper to buy pads and rotors and swap them myself, and if I do it myself I know that it was done right and there’s antiseize everywhere it should be. So now in addition to all the work of jacking the car up, removing tires, removing the calipers, depressing the caliper, cleaning the hub, coating the hub with antiseize, cleaning the guide pins, reinstalling and torquing everything to spec, I now have to get a battery/transformer/charger and wire into a sensor to tell the stupid fucking computer that the pads and rotors are new. Why can’t the computer use a position sensor to just detect that there’s now thicker material there? Why isn’t there just an option in the maintenance settings that you can press to say that you’ve done the work and to reset the maintenance interval? Fuck this shit, doing brakes is already a time sink if you live in the rust belt, and this system adds nothing but an extra cost or extra work to the person performing the work. There’s no safety gain from it existing, it’s fucking stupid.

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        For us technician? It’s a very quick work. For you guys? It’s an additional 30min per side, give or take, and for a job that you’ll be only doing once per few years if you don’t drift. Rear brake wear significantly slower than the front, and this is a rear brake issue. That’s the drama. You guys are crying about additional work for something that you do once a few years.