Moments after Luigi Mangione was handcuffed at a Pennsylvania McDonald’s, a police officer searching his backpack found a loaded gun magazine wrapped in a pair of underwear.
The discovery, recounted in court Monday as Mangione fights to keep evidence out of his New York murder case, convinced police in Altoona, Pennsylvania, that he was the man wanted in the killing of UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson in Manhattan five days earlier.
We can’t trust any ‘evidence’ cops find because they have an extensive history of planting it.
But they can pick the bullets out of that CEO guy and match them with bullets shot from the backpack gun.
How would the police in some village have the murder weapon from New York?
When this can be established, it’s more of a technicality during arrest and not planting.
“At the McDonalds police also discovered a clip containing bullets which was wrapped up in some undergarments”
“At the Altoona police department, the Altoona police continued to search the backpack resulting in … 9mm handgun with printed lower receiver.”
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I also remember reading about a gap in body cam footage of 11 minutes. This took me 30m to find because internet search is enshitified I had to resort to chatgpt.
Seriously, try finding that bodycam information on a search engine.
What kind of assassin carries an extra magazine?
And days after? Makes no sense.
Gotta make 100% sure he’s good and dead, reload, and then make even more sure he’s really dead. Haven’t you played those Hitman games?!
Enough plausible deniability with bullets, but if he was found with a blueberry muffin, THAT would seal his fate.
A bad one who has one target, or a good one who has several? 🤷♂️
And we can’t trust the “innocence” of every criminal either. So where does that leave us?
Well, there is the whole “innocent until proven guilty”, which means exactly that we’re supposed to assume that any alleged criminal is innocent until there’s actual evidence and shit that actually proves that they’re guilty.
It leaves us reading your sentence wondering when you will complete a basic civics course.
I’m guessing the word “criminal” to you means innocent person?
For fuck’s sake, I was told there is zero nuance to be understood here. I didn’t think I’d have to explain simple concepts like what a criminal is.
Civics course indeed.
They’re replying in context with the post. Luigi is not a criminal and will not be one unless/until convicted by the court.
If you’re speaking in generalities then that is the nuance that needs clarification in your earlier comment.
And I’m replying in context to the comment I responded to. I’m seeing now that it isn’t that lemmy lacks nuance, it’s that lemmy chooses what nuance to allow.
No thats just how american law works lmao
every person is innocent by default. complete and trusted. it’s the gov’s job to PROPERLY prove guilt.
That I said CRIMINALS, implies that I’m talking about people who are NOT innocent.
And I didn’t say how our system of law should perceive them, I said that they will all claim to be innocent.
criminal title can ONLY be applied AFTER trial. Until trial and a jury says guilty - they are NOT criminals. Luigi? Not a criminal.
What crime has he been found guilty of?
We presume innocence. Burden is on proving guilt. That’s where it leaves us.
Note how I said, “criminal”. This implies that we already know they are guilty- yet they’ll claim innocence.
My point is, this works both ways.