For All Mankind season 5 delivers one of the most compelling and tense seasons of the show to date as conflicts heat up and power hangs in the balance

  • justlemmyin@lemmy.world
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    11 days ago

    I tried watching it, but the overly macho american BS put me right of in the first 15 mins. Does it get better or the tone stays the same?

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      11 days ago

      It absolutely changes. The macho stuff lasts maybe 1-2 episodes, but after that it becomes clear that all the macho guys are damaged. By season two, the women are running the agency and pushing the series forwards, and the macho men are kind of close to the villains insofar as they unintentionally self-sabotage themselves. By season 4, the only successful men on the show are gay. The macho men are all dead, except maybe one that the writers keep to prove how bad he is, and to provide plot tension.

      Partway through season 4 is as far as I got, but if you’re big into feminism and space, you’ll probably enjoy it even as the plot diverges from “Apollo-13” to science fiction.

      I don’t know if that’s the kind of show you’re looking for, but I find it funny for someone to watch only the beginning and label it too macho when the rest of the show clearly hates the macho man stereotype, lol.

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        10 days ago

        Thanks for the detailed response. That makes sense now. Haha. I think my reaction was mostly coz I was after a distraction from real life and those 15 mins didn’t help. 😅

    • blueduck@piefed.social
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      11 days ago

      I think the macho behavior is in response to losing the moon race. The fighter pilot era of space exploration was and is still real… but it has to evolve to become more science driven over time

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      11 days ago

      The machismo is deconstructed, but the American chauvinism is real - they can’t even stick to the premise of the USSR/Soviets being a more credible antagonist to drive the space race forward. They give the US loads of tech upgrades from the space race, but the USSR does not get the same upgrades despite doing the same thing.

      The worldbuilding aspects are also kind of weak, with weird Final Destination-esque setpieces, and implausible political-economic just-so-stories to get main characters where the story wants them to be.

      All in all, I found it unbearably shallow.

      • zaphod@sopuli.xyz
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        11 days ago

        The first episodes of Star City have just been released, AFAIK it’s a spin-off that is supposed to show stuff from the soviet side. Haven’t watched it yet though, so I can’t say much about it.