• Alsephina@lemmy.ml
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    9 months ago

    Bruh the fucking US State department admits there’s no such thing

    The only countries accusing China of mishandling the ETIM in Xinjiang are its geopolitical rivals in the west. Muslim countries and the global south side with China on this.

    35+ mostly muslim UN states have approved of how China handled this after sending delegates and diplomats to Xinjiang:

    …separatism and religious extremism has caused enormous damage to people of all ethnic groups in Xinjiang, which has seriously infringed upon human rights, including right to life, health and development. Faced with the grave challenge of terrorism and extremism, China has undertaken a series of counter-terrorism and deradicalization measures in Xinjiang, including setting up vocational education and training centers. Now safety and security has returned to Xinjiang and the fundamental human rights of people of all ethnic groups there are safeguarded. The past three consecutive years has seen not a single terrorist attack in Xinjiang and people there enjoy a stronger sense of happiness, fulfillment and security. We note with appreciation that human rights are respected and protected in China in the process of counter-terrorism and deradicalization.

    We appreciate China’s commitment to openness and transparency. China has invited a number of diplomats, international organizations officials and journalist to Xinjiang to witness the progress of the human rights cause and the outcomes of counter-terrorism and deradicalization there. What they saw and heard in Xinjiang completely contradicted what was reported in the media. We call on relevant countries to refrain from employing unfounded charges against China based on unconfirmed information before they visit Xinjiang.

    And as another user said, this is a great video about Xinjiang with sources in the description.

    Also you can literally just visit Xinjiang and see it for yourself. There’s no restrictions on travel now that covid is mostly over there. There’s tons of videos on YouTube doing just that.

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        It’s the fucking US state department lmao of course they’re gonna say whatever bs they can. The point is that even they stopped short.

        What they have done in Xinjiang after ETIM’s attacks is built vocational training centres, infrastructure, and started integrating it better into the rest of China’s economy, i.e the core material reasons why someone would have to resort to extremism in the first place. Which is a far better response than other countries and has been successful, hence the muslim and global south countries approving of it.

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          Sounds exactly like Canada’s residential schools. Which is considered an attempt at genocide

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            Canada’s residential schools were forced on an entire population. By most estimates, the proportion of Uyghurs in these “camps” is similar to the proportion of Black people in prison in America. Is America conducting crimes against humanity or a genocide on Black people? Ok, maybe.

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          What a strange way to say “kidnaping children and sending their parents to concentration camps”.

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            9 months ago

            Projection. Ig it’s hard for the western mind to imagine a government tackling the material reasons for a problem instead of just harming people.

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        frankly, the US is STILL fighting in the middle east after 9/11. the chinese has shown more restraint and milder treatment towards their local terrorist group. so i’d say they’ve handled it better than the west ever could.

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          Lol irrelevant.

          China’s treatment of these people is indefensible. Defending it in any regard just leaves you wrong my dude.

          Look at all the people being clowns trying to declare nothing is happening because “official genocide” hasn’t been committed

          They still don’t call Gaza genocide. Why the fuck are you listening to them about it at all??? lol

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        I live in China and

        How about we say you’re also from Xinjiang while we’re at it?

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          [Sorry for a tangent]

          Don’t we expect to have an increasing number of Chinese people on Lemmy? It’s not controlled by any western government, and they’re ~20% of all people.

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            True. Just found it extremely unlikely cuz every Chinese person I’ve interacted with deny western media’s claims. And their claim about it being difficult to travel Xinjiang is just wrong after all; same “restrictions” as any other place in China or most other countries.

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      The first paragraph of the first link you shared:

      The U.S. State Department’s Office of the Legal Advisor concluded earlier this year that China’s mass imprisonment and forced labor of ethnic Uighurs in Xinjiang amounts to crimes against humanity—but there was insufficient evidence to prove genocide

      So basically you’re saying “don’t worry they’re just doing crimes against humanity but not technically genocide.” Not a great argument IMHO

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        Right below this comment

        It’s the fucking US state department lmao of course they’re gonna say whatever bs they can. The point is that even they stopped short.

        What they have done in Xinjiang after ETIM’s attacks is built vocational training centres, infrastructure, and started integrating it better into the rest of China’s economy, i.e the core material reasons why someone would have to resort to extremism in the first place. Which is a far better response than other countries and has been successful, hence the muslim and global south countries approving of it.

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        And the people opposing China are universally tied to the US through either NATO, Five Eyes, or US military occupation (Japan, South Korea).

        Are you one of those people who think only white people matter?

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        Imagine being so fucking racist jesus christ.

        “The opinions of the nations we’ve been colonizing and committing genocide on for hundreds of years don’t matter. Only that of the nations that are currently supporting a genocide in Gaza do.”