An unprecedented nearly 5,000 migrants have died at sea in the first five months of 2024 trying to reach the Spanish Canary Islands, according to a report released by migration rights group Walking Borders on Wednesday.
Between Jan. 1 and May 31, 4,808 people died on the Atlantic voyage to the Canaries after departing from Morocco, Mauritania, Senegal and Gambia, making it the deadliest route between Africa and Spain, with 95% of migrant deaths, according to the group.
Arrivals to the archipelago in that period soared five times to over 16,500 from a year ago, Interior Ministry data showed.
They’re coming over because the people around them are dying.
Do you really think they’d risk their lives like this for anything less?
There are plenty of first hand videos of people talking to people making dangerous crossing and they are doing to because they think they can get money in the new country.
Anecdotal, but feel free to find one if that’s the case.
Then please explain why this is not relevant: https://www.dw.com/en/record-120-million-people-displaced-globally-in-2024-un-report/a-69348370
It’s quite frequently on the TV.
I’m not saying people aren’t displaced around the world. Europe for example has a lot of Ukrainian refugees that should be taken in, legally.
A lot of the illegal migration is for money. If they got sent straight back they would have no reason to make the journey and they wouldn’t be at risk of drowning.
I have not seen the TV you have seen. If there are “plenty of first hand videos,” you can provide one.
Yes, I know this is your claim. Feel free to provide actual evidence for it beyond telling me that anecdotal videos exist but only on TV shows I haven’t seen at your leisure.
I’ve watched YouTubers who film and interview for example the u.s. southern border migrants the vast majority like 95% will say they cross for money and opportunity, occasionally they’ll say because political persecution or communism or civil war or whatever. They never look malnourished or anything. The article you linked to says 120 million are displaced but links about 15 million to war. Which you claim they are migrating because people around them are dying which isn’t too true. So this brings us to our next problem. Should they stay in their own country and fight their own damn problems? Should another country do it for sudan? Should the u.s. arm a stabilizing militia in sudan and aid them in the liberation with thousand pound freedom bombs? If migration is such a problem?
For one, that is totally anecdotal. YouTubers can interview whoever they want and edit and present those interviews however they want.
Secondly, displacement is always a life-or-death matter. Do you think being homeless in a rich country like America is easily survivable? Now imagine it in an African country.
There are various different channels and people who film and interview people illegally crossing. I’ve just never seen a malnourished group of illegal migrants on any news platform. It’s just not common at all. Ive even just now tried finding it and I can’t. The vast majority wear new clothes and new shoes. Which leads me to imagine it’s not all that hard surviving where they come from. They just want more new shoes and clothes and more soda to gulp in their fat stomachs.
Again, anecdotal. YouTube videos and news channels show you what they want to show you.
Nah you spend enough time on the internet go look. I don’t have every TV show I ever watched recorded and categorised. I doubt anything I show you will change your mind so why bother? Economic gain is clearly a documented reason. People burning their passport is clearly documented. All these young men coming over must be so much more desperate than everyone else right? Otherwise why would it be just them? If you are open to your pre conceived notions being wrong go look, if you are going to keep them anyway no point me wasting my time.
That’s not how it works. It’s not my job to prove you aren’t lying.
Then you can show this clear documentation. Again, it’s not my job to prove you aren’t lying.
You’re the one that said they are all coming over because everyone around them is dying.
Go prove everyone coming into Europe illegally is because it isn’t safe for then to be anywhere else.
I did not use the word ‘all’ or the word ‘everyone.’ That would definitely be a lie.
Now, you have claimed that there is plenty of video and clear documentation. This is your last chance to provide them before your comments get deleted for violating the misinformation rule (rule 6).