• Eidolon_Alpha@lemmy.world
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    1 year ago

    The only ‘mass shooting’ was the Philly one. Intellectually stunted and politically blinded morons are trying to change the definition by lumping in gang bangers doing drive bys and shooting up house parties. If you Individually dig through the gunviolencearchive.org sources, the overwhelming majority of them have an African American teenager with a handgun set out to settle a personal vendetta; yet somehow that scenario is - by gunviolence.orgs own statistical criteria - categorized the same exact way as a deranged psychopath with an AR-15 randomly shooting up a mall (which even once is way too fucking common, but not as statistically prominent as the site is trying to mislead the public to believe).

    It’s not a gun problem, it’s a cultural one.

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      Why can’t it be both? Especially when guns are so interwoven into the culture.

      So it’s not a mass shooting if the person is black and the crime is personal? What led you to come with that criteria? I tend to think “A mass shooting is a violent crime in which an attacker kills or injures multiple individuals simultaneously using a firearm.” is a pretty fair definition. You know “mass” as in several individuals involved and “shooting” as in a firearm was involved. Keep it up with the mental gymnastics though.

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        People love to point the fingers at the tool used to do evil things. Instead of addressing why the evil thing is happening.

        Banning and restricting guns is a band aid solution that harms the general populace more than it benefits.

        Bad actors that want to inflict harm are not concerned with using something legal to get the job done. There will always be inventive whackos out there that will find ways to hurt people. Guns or no guns.

        The Swiss have almost the same firearm to people ratio as America ( at least compared to the rest of the world ) and under have far fewer of the same issues. I think this is largely because of cultural differences and availability for healthcare.

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          People keep giving the swiss as an example but it’s not the same context. Mainly because in Switzerland all men go through mandatory military service and that builds some discipline when handling a gun. Also they still have to get ( strict ) permits for those weapons, even with the accompanying training.

          It is my impression ( and I apologize for the generalizations ) that in the US they’re essentially handing out assault rifles to any rando with some cash on him.

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            A swiss permit is as strict as a USA background check.

            I’m not even kidding.

            You get a permit by not having a relevant criminal record and being of age.

            USA background check is to see if you have a relevant criminal record and if you are old enough.

            Saaaaaame shit in the end.

            USA gun laws vary by state. Even those with the strictest of gun laws still have lots of gun violence.

            Disarming your population isn’t the answer.

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          Weird how the US is literally the only first world country with this problem. No way it has anything to do with the ease of access to guns!

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            I wonder if there are any other differences in America from other first-world countries? Maybe it’s the availability of swimming pools? Or too many McDonalds? Or maybe there are numerous social issues that are unaddressed here in the states and have been responsible for a much higher incidence of violence in general, of which guns are a small part.

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              There’s violent and unhinged people in every country. The difference is the guns… it couldn’t be anymore fucking obvious lol

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                People who want to kill people will kill people regardless of the tools available to them.

                Hardware stores in any county contain the means to create mass killing events with a weekly paycheck.

                You are not safe from people who intend to do you harm because you have gun laws. Stop thinking life is so simple.

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                  Weird how there’s no pandemic of mass murders with hardware tools. Stop being fucking delusional and use your brain.