• FiniteBanjo@lemmy.today
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    1 month ago

    I would be more open to these sort of arguments if they weren’t being promoted or perpetrated by actual dictatorships.

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        1 month ago

        Hurrhurrhurr yes comrade us americans, we should learn to accept Xi Jinping into our hearts. /s

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          yes, anyone who has literally any problem with my shit head oligarchs whose dogs overthrow democracies 3x a day is OBVIOUSLY a pupped of the nefarious xi jinping, who is different from our proudly gaslighting oligarch vampires because he has to hop everywhere, instead of having a cool cape, and also likes trains. (which, to be fair, is a pretty fucking huge difference with the climate doing what it is)

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            1 month ago

            Look, the USA are no saints by any metric, but on a comparative scale to actual dictatorships you’d have to be a concaveman to think they’re one of the baddies.

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      1 month ago

      Joseph Stiglitz is an American economist, not a dictatorship, and he’s advocating for better capitalism.

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        I wasn’t calling Joseph Stiglitz a dictatorship, I was calling Russia and China dictatorships and they often use the same words to different ends. The fact that this is crossposted to Hexbear and lemmy ML isn’t doing the post any favors, either, those places are flowing with pro-CCP propoganda.

        As much as this can be a productive conversation analyzing the faults of the system we live in to reform and fix it, it can also be used as justification for voting against our interests, violence, and subterfuge. It’s unfortunate, but that is our context.

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          1 month ago

          This is not an article about communism or socialism or dictatorships or any of the other things you’re talking about.

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            No but it is an article whose headlines use the same words as pretend-anarchist/socialist dictatorships when they try to stoke flames online to promote political division and violence.

            Jfc I feel like a skipping record, how do you not understand the context of the conversation you’re in? Did you get dropped off in the middle?

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              I think I don’t understand the context because you’re not responding in context, you’re just continuing an imaginary conversation you’ve had elsewhere because you saw some keywords.

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                You seem really upset about me discussing how genuine this sentiment is and where it leads. Are you feeling defensive about something?

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                  Are you questioning whether Joseph Stiglitz is a secret communist? Because that’s the only genuine sentiment at play for your top level comment. If you instead wanted to call out some other poster and argue with them about communism, maybe you should have replied to that person?

                  Or maybe you should have read the article before you commented so you wouldn’t have to be trying to figure out a post hoc justification about the nonexistent context making your comment correct all along.

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                    Lol nah, it could just be coincidence, but imagine this hypothetical:

                    If the only two times you hear a phrase like “you should buy white tires” was from Joseph Stiglitz and a demon whom wants you to off yourself, and the demon said it first, how would that make you feel about the message?

                    The fact that it is one of their main talking points or assertions while attacking the USA shows there is some nuanced truth to the statement.

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          kill enough people, eventually you’ll get a genuine piece of shit who deserved to die.

          similarly, if you talk enough shit (and they do), you’ll eventually be right. kind of like a stopped clock, you know? shitty people can be right about things, and that doesn’t make them any less shitty. arguably doesn’t even make them right.