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This is really interesting stuff, found it on Hacker News. It’s like WINE, but for Android <-> Linux: https://gitlab.com/android_translation_layer/android_translation_layer/
Wow this is awesome! Waydroid is insecure (outdated, rootful container), slow in development and only sandboxed on Fedora.
But that they take Newpipe… which is notoriously broken as Youtube tries to block everything…
Other apps are
Those are really unique on Android
I’m using NewPipe daily and it doesn’t seem broken at all?
You use a VPN?
I use a VPN with NewPipe, no problems. I’m using the NewPipe repo for the app
Ditto here. NewPipe + VPN works fine on my tablet I use as a YouTube machine. The only problems have been when YT messes with stuff to try to block them, and then NewPipe will have it fixed usually within a day. And that doesn’t happen as often as people think.
Depends on what VPN server you use then I guess.
Newpipe breaks very often for me. Freetube breaks less
I’m the opposite. I want to like freetube more but it never works for me. I don’t really have any problems with NewPipe.
it’s worth noting that no actual security problems have been presented that haven’t been dealt with, Sandboxing is available on any distro assuming the tools are made availible. Waydroid supports both apparmor and selinux, please report any security issues and tag the maintainers when doing so.
EDIT: you do need to set apparmor into enforce mode manually though.
Interesting, so the Android SELinux sandbox can work with Apparmor?
It’s less secure, but the host<->guest seperation is there.
I’ve been using FreeTube on desktop and it has worked great (with VPN)
Freetube uses Electron. The Flatpak is 240MB in size, the Newpipe + Translation layer is 40MB
It also doesnt bundle an often outdated version of Chromium, as found in Electron
But I tried Newpipe Flatpak and it was blocked totally. May have been because of my VPN though. Freetube had the same issues.
Grayjay is king at block circumvention
Good to know, thanks. If the FreeTube flatpak is working for me, I might as well try the Newpipe one if it’s that much better. I guess I just assumed that the translation layer would add CPU overhead.
I’ll have to look into Grayjay. Is there a flatpak? I’m on immutable, so flatpak is much preferred.
Newpipe flatpak is totally broken XD
but it is more efficient, the translation layer is not an issue.
Actually, I am not sure what LocalSend and ConverterNOW use but those also look kinda like Android apps with GTK decorations.
Grayjay is android-only but a really nice cross-platform player. It is a framework with plugins, for nearly all streaming services… apart from Peertube??
I went from newpipe to tubular since it comes with sponsorblock, but iirc the backend is the same.
No VPN or anything, it works great.
Yes with no VPN it will work easier
It’s most likely watching Youtube with your VPN that’s broken then, not NewPipe. Youtube implemented Captchas for IPs that generate a lot of traffic/a lot of people are using. That’s how they are trying to kill frontends like invidious that proxy the requests. NewPipe by default uses your own IP so it doesn’t have that problem. If you use a VPN IP that a lot of others are using too, you’ll get that same problem though.
Yes I assume this increases many issues.
This might also explain why sometimes the one, sometimes the other app (desktop vs phone) is broken
Which version of Newpipe are you using? You’ll want to use their latest release repository rather than the ‘stable’ one, that seems to make it work.
I get the Nightly from Github
Oh, hmmm, no idea then.
hey! don’t be mean like that to my baby…
Newpipe works perfectly fine with only small issues sometimes. OrganicMaps is available on flathub
The OrganicMaps for “regular” Linux is very different from the Android app though. Completely different UI tech (Qt vs native Android widgets) and lacks important things like turn-by-turn navigation.
in what situation would you need turn by turn navigation on Linux???
For a linux phone