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      It’s currently a race-to-the-bottom in big IT & tech, where they don’t look how they get you to like them but how much they can get away with, without repelling most of their userbase.

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        In this case YouTube can do literally anything they want due to the lack of real alternatives. Hosting videos for free, for anyone (and any number of viewers) to watch, for free, is rather predictably not a very profitable business model. If you want to see what it takes to actually be profitable with such a model, look at the average free porn site. Extremely intrusive ads everywhere. If you don’t want to pay, and ads are the only revenue, advertisers are the customer, not you.

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        The endgame will be Gemini generating videos based on the information they’ve harvested off you.

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      Removing the homepage entirely, replacing the entire UI with the shorts-style format of “view video right now, tap button to see next/previous video”. If you want a specific video, you must search for it.

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    YT Exec - /rips massive line of coke off Intern’s ass/ - “Remove View Count”

    YT Engineer - “But Sir, users will hate that. It will actively make the user experience worse”

    YT Exec - “That’s the goddamn point!”

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    In 5 years:

    Youtube tests small ads in the top corner during video playback.

    In 10 years:

    Youtube tests small increase in size of well established corner ads.

    In 15 years:

    Youtube graciously allows video playback inbetween ads

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      In 20 years, “YouTube was an online video sharing platform…”

      I doubt they can make it to the next 20 years, the way they are controlling everything.

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      In 20 years:

      Users can no longer upload and YouTube becomes just a CDN for Adsense.

      (and the only way to watch old videos is through the Internet Archive)

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      If you count the little banner text ads then they already have the ads in the top right corner of the videos and have had those for years.

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    Not to mention their “1080p” streams look worse than 2013 480p streams. The site is a dumpster fire.

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      I thought I was imagining this until I put a 1080p episode on one monitor and a 1080p YT vid on another. The difference was night and day.

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    As someone who tries to regularly post videos on YouTube I think this would help me, since I’m sure many people (including me, unfortunately) avoid low view count videos.

    But I can absolutely understand why you wouldn’t want it hidden. I’m sure this will lead to major misinformation clickbaiting (as if that isn’t already a problem!), but I believe that the view count will still be visible on the view page.

    Is YouTube doing it with small creators actually in mind? Who knows, other than them?

    Edit: I do want to clarify that I think hiding the date it was posted is just strange and would probably only lead to problems

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      I don’t like this idea for the opposite reason. I’m one of the people who are suspicious of videos with millions of views since most of them look manufactured. We all use view counts to gauge if a video is something we’re after, probably in more ways than we can come up with.

      If it gives you any encouragement - I’m not discouraged by view counts. I know I like niche stuff and give small channels a try. It’s a chance at having more genuine interaction. As long as a video is not off-putting due to bad diction or very bad production then I’m not going to back out and see what it is about. This can work to your advantage too.

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        That’s fair, and I’m more inclined to believe people on Lemmy would agree with your view thankfully! A lot of high view videos are for sure manufactured, and from what I can tell usually target children.

        I guess we’ll see how the landscape changes if this sticks around? We’re all along for the ride, for the most part!

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      Is YouTube doing it with small creators actually in mind? Who knows, other than them?

      I am pretty confident in guessing that they are not doing it for selfless reasons. Imo the reason is that the less information they give the user, the more you are beholden to the algorithm choosing for you.

      But depending how they hide it it actually might not just be users, but also companies that e.g. buy ads from them. The less information they get, the more they need to trust whatever metric google offers them

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      That makes sense. Youtube has mixed more and more small channels with low views into my feed for a couple of months.

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          And the comments are all “How does this have so few views?” while it has 10 times more than subscribers.

          I subscribed to quite a few small channels recently.

          I’m no fan that they try to show me 14 year old videos all the time, though.

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      I don’t avoid low view count videos because…say I get a notification that RedLetterMedia has just published a new Best of the Worst. It’s been live for 4 minutes. Of course it’s going to have a low view count.

      I’m looking for a repair video on the specific make and model of Dell laptop I have. I’ve seen exactly two of them in existence, not a popular model. It’s going to have a low view count.

      I think it is useful information to have, it shouldn’t be entirely hidden like the downvotes are, but I don’t think it’s necessary on the home page.

      Date uploaded though…that needs to be there.

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        Yeah, I agree that it shouldn’t be hidden entirely, and luckily as it stands now it’s still visible on the view page if it’s hidden on the home page

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    Good thing we have Youtube alternatives. The two biggest ones are Odysee & Rumble. Also we have Peertube. The problem with Peertube is people don’t use it. So it haves less content on it.

    If you’re going to watch Youtube, use a Frontend. For same reason Privacy Guides don’t have Grayjay on it.

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        Rumble isn’t any better. It’s where my dad gets his COVID conspiracy material after folks got kicked off other platforms.

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        Its got a lot of those types for sure, but it has the most normal content of any alt video platform.

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        That’s what happens to all alternatives at the start, only really the content that isn’t suitable for the main platform migrates there. It requires a mass exodus because of something major, like what happened with reddit 3rd party apps or twitter/X & the block change , to get enough regular users there.

        Lemmy literally exists because Dessalines, a “long time Marxist-leninist” decided that “Fuck the while supremacist Reddit admins” and made an alternative to host r/communism because reddit is run by an “anti-tankie scum”.

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        It’s sad that Odysse has turned to that because it was where I was thinking about uploading content.

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    Fucking YouTube is at it again, and you know what? I think Susan make a better YouTube CEO than the current retarded CEO, Luckily Revanced is a thing hopefully they patch it if it come true

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    Screw this, mainstream websites are constantly trying to do everything they can to influence public opinion every day. First dislike button second this.

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    Thanks Youtube, I hate it. Like I can see some arguments for taking away the view counter, even if I think it’s a bad decision. But the date the video was uploaded? Who does that even help? I guess Youtubers will either need to start properly dating their videos or we’ll just have to use context clues to figure out when a video was uploaded.

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      But the date the video was uploaded? Who does that even help?

      There’s gaming content that expires within a month, especially with frequent balance and other game changes, like with League of Legends. I won’t watch a video that’s weeks old because what’s being featured probably doesn’t work anymore after a patch.

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    I’ve encountered so many AI generated videos that now I have to depend on view count since they removed dislike. And even view count doesn’t work as well because people click on just to see why there are high view counts, turns out it’s an AI video with high view count. Absolutely terrible practice. Youtube knows, they’re not stopping

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      YouTube har made everyone using AI in their video declare it, but in not sure it matters when it comes to being pushed out.

      Source: I was playing around with autogenerating YouTube shorts, YouTube did not make it easy

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        Alright now how do I filter out that A.I content. Chances are if you search up a tech question, there’s an A.I video made from scraping websites and bot TTS