cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/28249577

Top Trump official Stephen Miller’s recent declaration that anyone who “preaches hate for America” will face deportation has ignited alarm online, with critics warning the statement disregards First Amendment protections.

Social media users and legal analysts raised immediate concerns, pointing out that expressing dissent or criticism of the government is protected under the First Amendment. Some worried the administration was veering into authoritarian territory.

The backlash has reignited broader debates over the limits of free speech, especially as civil liberties fall under scrutiny. While immigration enforcement remains a core theme of President Donald Trump’s platform, critics are increasingly questioning whether rhetoric like Miller’s is a precursor to more aggressive suppression of dissent.

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    That goes against the first amendment, which I think makes it anti-american. Can Stephen Miller start by deporting himself?

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        They never were. Unless they added things that helped them or a cohort at a given time. cf: prohibition, its repeal, etc.

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          I don’t think they care about their hypocrisy, tbh - I think they view themselves as more American while dismantling America. This is just how reactionary coups work, they appeal to nationalism, but insist on reverting to an older status quo as a more authentic version of that nationalism. (It’s a re-invisioning of America in a sense.)

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              yes, and in some sense it doesn’t really matter if even the founding of America conflicts with their America - they believe their America is more American. This is the reactionary mindset, that the past is best while not even having the education to know what the past was. Instead the ideals are set as an agenda by whatever the reactionary institutions say the past is, and in political movements those ideals and details often change as needed for political gains. Unfortunately this is not just exclusive to reactionaries (the Russian revolution brought about Stalin after all and the French revolution led to Napoleon), but I do tend to think reactionary minds are more quick to accept reality based on authority rather than reason or evidence, and that makes them more politically convenient as followers.

              All the more reason to view the reactionaries as not really invested in any particular past or tradition, but instead as being influenced by certain groups and people - those most visible and influential often being more like grifters than theologians or stewards of tradition.

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        They always hated what the Constitution actually has in it, like no endorsement of their god, for instance.

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    Here it is, the mask comes off and they tell us to comply or die. We are officially in a fascist dictatorship.

    This is where we use our community organizations to alert when and where ICE will be showing up, and making sure armed support shows up to make sure ICE steps down or dies whenever they slink out of the shadows.

    If they come for you to deport you to El Salvador you need to kill as many as possible or try to escape to Mexico/Canada, because going to El Salvador is a death sentence anyway.

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    What does “hate for america” even mean? Does “I think mcdonalds fries are garbage” count? or “republicans are whiny little maggots”?

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    Disagreeing with the dear leader will also be the same as preaching hate for America

    Not clapping enthusiastic enough will also be the same as preaching hate for America

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    I love America. I swore to defend it against all enemies. I do not love what it is doing or who the government defines as enemies.

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      When will you recognize that the government is behaving as if citizens are the enemy and itself is actually doing the same things enemies do…

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      I love who the government defines as enemies. I don’t love that the government defines them as enemies.

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    Fuck America, Fuck Trump, Fuck these nazi pricks, and congratz, you’ll never have to deport me, I won’t ever visit your shithole of a country.

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    Really hate the milktoast way these articles are written. “critics warning” “ignited alarm online” “backlash has ignited debate” ffs just say the Trump admin announced the end of free speech. That is literally what happened.

    Some worried the administration was veering into authoritarian territory.

    FFS WE’VE BEEN THERE THIS ISN’T VEERING THIS IS FOLLOWING A STRAIGHT LINE ALONG THE PATH WE’VE ALREADY BEEN ON FUCK

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    Whats that joke Reagan cracked back in the 80s about Russian Soviets not allowed to criticise their government?

    Yea, huh. Wonder what happened to that.

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    “Worries users” - is the USA an operating system now?

    Is AI writing these posts? The statement makes sense in context in the full post, but the headline absolutely does not - leads me to believe yes, AI slop.

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    If the feds show up to collect me for voicing my opinion. There will be no questions asked. You come through that door. Some of you are not going home.