Google literally considers itself an ad company. They have a huge framework meant to profit off of ads shown on other products and platforms. They sell data as a service to better target consumers for advertisement. It’s not comparable to a tv channel.

Shipping was sabotaged and it just doesn’t make sense to buy local. The item is more expensive and there’s a 30 to 60 dollar shipping fee tagged on. It’s usually the same made in china quality.

For work related stuff, I bypass both and get straight from China.

I don’t like it but the gov didn’t step in and basically handed half our economy to Amazon. At the height of it, they decided to sell our national shipping service so prices went up (I’m in Canada btw).

In a perfect world, amazon would get the boot and we would have a government owned drop shipping infrastructure. Until that happens, I’m not ready to pay 3x the price for simple items just to keep a dead dream alive. Local got snuffed when it comes to consumer goods.

It’s not always sex tourism. Of the people I was referring to, it was during a week-long fishing trip, the prostitution wasn’t the reason for the trip and only occupied a small part of it.

I think it’s gross regardless and I’d rather none of it was a reality, so you’ll have to find someone else to argue with.

The corporations already have all the data, users literally gave it to them by uploading it. Open source only has scrapped data. If you start regulating, you kill open source but the big players will literally just shrug it off.

Traditional artists already lost. It sucks but now we get to find out if the winner is all of society or only just Adobe and Shutterstock.

I’m the opposite. If someone does it at home, they probably do so regularly while a vacation is once every now and then. I’ve known a couple of normal people that did it on vacay, it’s just another facet of the party for them, letting down their hair etc. The ones I know that do it at home tho…yikes. But it’s all kind of gross regardless.

Ah yes, establishing a democratic country by pillaging it’s resources, letting the drug industry grow and then giving the whole country wrapped up in a bow to the Taliban. At least your country’s propaganda budget isn’t money wasted.

I’m not praising the Taliban, a group btw built by the US. I’m saying if they managed to so easily destroy the opium industry, there is no reason the US couldn’t on their “peace keeping” mission. Except there is a reason, and knowing the CIAs track record, it’s easy to guess what it is.

But keep drinking the Kool aid. “America number one. It’s not called pillaging if we are bringing democracy to savages. Our guns only shoot rainbows and we only bomb civi city centers when they deserve it.”

I guess all logic goes out the window if you can utter the word tankie just like in the 70s when you could ignore a person points by screaming commie. Not like that word is being instilled in you specifically so you can blindly follow your leaders. I bet you don’t even know just how far down your face is bent.

You are the one implying we should ignore the points in the article because of its source.

They grabbed all the oil and couldn’t even try to kill the opium industry. They fucked the whole country, bailed on it and let it go to crazies, and it’s THOSE crazies that finally do the right thing. And all it took was a couple of sticks,what a joke.

The US military complex is fucking disgusting and shits all over wherever it decides to raid next. But I guess any reason to bootlick is a good one. Pathetic.

What facts does that change. Do you have a seperate non-tankie source that says the US did everything it could to stop opium production? It’s quite clear letting it go on suited them.

There is no open source future if all we have is the blender and nothing else

It depends for what kind of AI and but no, giving sources and building with just volunteer data is just not possible at our current technological level. I’m mostly talking about large llms because that’s what’s really at stake and they train on huge amounts of data. Like ALL of stack, GitHub, Reddit, etc. Just fine tuning them on a consumer level takes more than 50 000 question and answer pairs, that’s just one tiny superficial layer that’s added on top.

Grammerly should absolutely add an opt out option to gain consumers trust, but forcing the the whole industry to do so is a disaster.

If individuals can opt out, so will websites to “protect their users”. Then we get data hoarding, where stack and GitHub opt out of all open source options but sell it to the only ones that can now afford to build ais, Microsoft and google. it won’t include data of certain individuals, the few that opt out, but I’m guessing eventually the opt in will be directly into the terms of service of websites, you opt in or you fuck off.

How does anyone except corporations benefit from this kind of circus. In 10 years, AI will be doing most office work. Google isn’t dumb and wants that profit. They and openai have all the data, they can strong arm or buy what they are missing. Restricting and legislating only widens their moat.

Most of the data is scraped, it’s not up to the website. You can’t give a list of citation since it isn’t a search engine, it doesn’t know where the information comes from and it’s highly transformative, it melds information from hundreds if not thousand of different sources.

If it worked only with volunteer work, there would simply be not enough data.

Any law restricting data use in AI is only going to benefit corporations, there isn’t a solution for individual content creators. You can’t pay them for the drop in the bucket they add, thee logistics are insane. You can let them opt out, but then you need to do the same for whole websites which leads to a corporate hellscape where three companies own our whole economy since they are the only ones who can train ais.

What happens when every corporation and website closes their doors to AI? There isn’t any open source if we can’t use scrapped information from stack overflow, GitHub, Reddit etc.

Sure some users will opt out but most won’t. Every single website will restrict though and then they will sell it to google and Microsoft who will be the only companies able to build ais.

Models need vast amounts of data. Paying individual users isnt feasible, and like you said most of it can be scraped.

The only way I see this working is if scraped content is a no go and then you pay the website, publishing house, record company, etc which kills any open source solution and doesn’t really help any of the users or creators that much. It also paves the way for certain companies owning a lot of our economy as we move towards an AI driven society.

It’s definitely a hot mess but the way I see it, the more restrictive we are with it, the more gross monopolies we create for no real gains.

It’s because certain companies are stirring the pot and manipulating. They want people mad so they can put restrictions on training AI, to stifle the open source scene.