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Cake day: July 11th, 2023

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  • Step away from it and avoid engaging. Let it fade into memory. Distract yourself with something you enjoy or find fun/entertaining. Don’t give them your attention or energy, and don’t go looking for more stuff that will make you mad. It’s hard but it does work if you stick with it and don’t let yourself get stuck thinking about it over and over. If absolutely necessary, vent about it to a friend, get the salt out of your system without inviting it into your life directly. Only engage with something that you think deserves your time and energy. Just because it’s a topic you give a shit about, that doesn’t mean that someone being a dickhead on the internet deserves any emotional investment or emotional labour from you. Not letting yourself engage with something that upsets you can feel frustrating at first, but after a while it will begin to feel very freeing. You will start to feel less obligated to devote too much mental real-estate to things that upset you and shitty people who don’t deserve the time of day from you. You will then feel less of that immediate urge to dive in and get involved in an argument, which will likely only upset you. Instead it gets easier to move on and let it fade to white noise in the backdrop of your thoughts, until it’s gone completely.

    That was my experience at least when I started having this issue and decided to just stop getting into it with stupid online strangers.



  • Ai isn’t interpreting anything. This isn’t the sci-fi style of ai that people think of, that’s general ai. This is narrow AI, which is really just an advanced algorithm. It can’t create new things with intent and design, it can only regurgitate a mix of pre-existing stuff based on narrow guidelines programmed into it to try and keep it coherent, with no actual thought or interpretation involved in the result. The issue isn’t that it’s derivative, the issue is that it can only ever be inherently derivative without any intentional interpretation or creativity, and nothing else.

    Even collage art has to qualify as fair use to avoid copyright infringement if it’s being done for profit, and fair use requires it to provide commentary, criticism, or parody of the original work used (which requires intent). Even if it’s transformative enough to make the original unrecognizable, if the majority of the work is not your own art, then you need to get permission to use it otherwise you aren’t automatically safe from getting in trouble over copyright. Even using images for photoshop involves creative commons and commercial use licenses. Fanart and fanfic is also considered a grey area and the only reason more of a stink isn’t kicked up over it regarding copyright is because it’s generally beneficial to the original creators, and credit is naturally provided by the nature of fan works so long as someone doesn’t try to claim the characters or IP as their own. So most creators turn a blind eye to the copyright aspect of the genre, but if any ever did want to kick up a stink, they could, and have in the past like with Anne Rice. And as a result most fanfiction sites do not allow writers to profit off of fanfics, or advertise fanfic commissions. And those are cases with actual humans being the ones to produce the works based on something that inspired them or that they are interpreting. So even human made derivative works have rules and laws applied to them as well. Ai isn’t a creative force with thoughts and ideas and intent, it’s just a pattern recognition and replication tool, and it doesn’t benefit creators when it’s used to replace them entirely, like Hollywood is attempting to do (among other corporate entities). Viewing AI at least as critically as actual human beings is the very least we can do, as well as establishing protection for human creators so that they can’t be taken advantage of because of AI.

    I’m not inherently against AI as a concept and as a tool for creators to use, but I am against AI works with no human input being used to replace creators entirely, and I am against using works to train it without the permission of the original creators. Even in the artist/writer/etc communities it’s considered to be a common courtesy to credit other people/works that you based a work on or took inspiration from, even if what you made would be safe under copyright law regardless. Sure, humans get some leeway in this because we are imperfect meat creatures with imperfect memories and may not be aware of all our influences, but a coded algorithm doesn’t have that excuse. If the current AIs in circulation can’t function without being fed stolen works without credit or permission, then they’re simply not ready for commercial use yet as far as I’m concerned. If it’s never going to be possible, which I just simply don’t believe, then it should never be used commercially period. And it should be used by creators to assist in their work, not used to replace them entirely. If it takes longer to develop, fine. If it takes more effort and manpower, fine. That’s the price I’m willing to pay for it to be ethical. If it can’t be done ethically, then imo it shouldn’t be done at all.



  • Most of the data is scraped, it’s not up to the website.

    It is up to whoever runs the ai, and those are the people I’m addressing for the most part, though plenty of websites do have control over what data is fed to the ai they’re using. In grammarly’s case it’s absolutely up to them what data is used and whether there’s an option provided to opt out of having your work used for training the ai, as shown by the fact that they offer it to the business license. They just choose not to offer that option to other users.

    You can’t give a list of citation since it isn’t a search engine, it doesn’t know where the information comes from and it’s highly transformative, it melds information from hundreds if not thousand of different sources.

    It’s all code, the people coding it are 100% capable of programming it to keep track of where the information comes from. Even if it’s transformative, that doesn’t prevent it from keeping track of what was transformed. I’m aware that the number of citations would be extensive, I’m fine with that.

    If it worked only with volunteer work, there would simply be not enough data.

    According to who? There are plenty of ways to get data from voluntary sources just like we get for any number of studies. It’s just up to the one who runs the ai to put in the legwork to get enough data that way, and there are lots of methods. You don’t have to just sit and wait for people to come to you and sign up, though based on the ai frenzy I bet they could have gotten plenty of data that way from people who are curious and want to contribute to ai training as a novel new concept. Making ai data gathering on websites something people can opt in or out on is just one way of making it more ethical than forcibly taking that data without permission.

    Any law restricting data use in AI is only going to benefit corporations,

    I fail to see how requiring permission and offering the option to opt out of having your data used would benefit corporations. That just sounds like an excuse to not even try to regulate them.

    You can let them opt out, but then you need to do the same for whole websites which leads to a corporate hellscape where three companies own our whole economy since they are the only ones who can train ais.

    I don’t understand how part A leads to part B here. Why would those corporations have an advantage just because everyone with ais, including them, have to offer the option to opt out? Also, it’s entirely possible to also restrict the scope of an ai or regulate ai monopolies alongside regulating stuff like basic consent. Historically a lack of regulation is what causes corporate hellscapes because without something keeping them in check the larger companies will take advantage of their reach to do whatever they want on a larger scale, pushing out or merging with competitors. It’s not like requiring permission and providing opt-out would give them more of an advantage than they already have.







  • I still don’t recommend getting a donkey. 2 donkeys just means twice the work and twice the cost, and they are already expensive high maintenance animals. Like I mentioned before, they are not beginner animals, they’re animals you should only get if you already have significant experience maintaining a farm and working with livestock animals. Before deciding or even planning to get a donkey you should try to get training, or a job or volunteer position, actually working with donkeys and other farm animals for an extended period of time, including feeding, grooming, etc, like a farm hand or something along those lines. Lots of places are willing to train employees who don’t already have experience. And I don’t mean do it for a week or two, I mean do it for a while, learn the routine, and see how much manpower it takes to care for various types of farm animals. No offence but I really get the impression that you’re looking at this from a very idealistic and rather naive point of view as someone who has no idea what caring for an animal like this is actually like. So I think it’s vitally important for you to actually get experience working with animals like donkeys and horses and so on before even considering owning one.

    Donkeys are very active, intelligent animals who need lots of stimulation and enrichment. They aren’t the type to laze about at all. They need lots of toys and activities to keep them entertained. They get bored easily. Every donkey’s personality is different. Some are sweet and placid, while others are ornery and aggressive. They need to be properly socialized if you want to reduce the risk of aggression and get them used to human interaction, and there’s also factors that can influence their behaviour like like if they’re a jack or a jenny , and whether they’re gelded or not. You generally shouldn’t keep 2 ungelded jacks together for example, or an ungelded jack and a jenny (not to mention they could end up breeding which would cause a whole host of issues). 2 geldings, 2 jennies, or a gelding and a jenny are usually recommended. And it’s worth noting that donkeys are large animals. Even miniature donkeys are roughly 200-400 lbs, heavier than even the largest dog breeds. If they get aggressive they can do a lot of damage to humans, especially the non-miniature ones. They’ve been known to kill predators like coyotes and wolves, which is why they’re often used as guardian animals for smaller livestock like sheep and goats. In some rare cases they’ve even killed humans, though it is extremely rare. That said, the injuries they cause can be pretty severe. They can kick and bite very hard, break bones, puncture skin, etc.

    Even if you are dead set on getting a donkey and don’t want to get experience first via a job or volunteer position, there are many farm animals that I would recommend trying to raise first before moving to donkeys. Ducks, goats, and chickens are good starter livestock. Then you can try bigger ones like sheep and pigs. Then maybe you can think about trying a donkey or two. And a miniature donkey might be a better donkey to try first before considering larger ones.

    Im not just saying this for you, because it won’t just be about you, I’m also saying this for the donkey. You cannot decide to get one on a whim. You have to be willing to invest a lot of time and effort into their care. You owe it to the animal, because they have no control over where they live or who cares for them or how well they’re treated. The one with complete control over their life is you. It’s a big responsibility, which means it’s up to you to do your due diligence. Do not just think about this in terms of what you want, think of it in terms of what they need and and if you are capable of providing that. Jumping into it without any hands-on experience is not doing your due diligence. And you need a plan/arrangement from the start for if it doesn’t work out. A friend with a farm or a rescue who’s willing to take the donkey if you find you’re unable to care for it. I’ve known people who wanted to get dogs and were convinced that they could care for a dog, and then found out that they couldn’t even emotionally handle many of the basic requirements like dealing with chewing on a remote or jumping on people. It is extremely difficult to have an accurate idea of what it’s going to be like to care for a pet you’ve never had before from research alone. And compared to donkeys a dog is easy mode.

    I cannot emphasise enough that you really need to put a lot more thought into this before saying you want to actually own a donkey imo. A lot the time when people who get donkeys and other similar animals on a whim because they like the idea of owning one it ends up badly for the donkey, who ends up mistreated, or abandoned, or rehomed. Even if they’re treated well while in the person’s care, rehoming them is still stressful for them. It’s not fair to the animal if you put them in that situation.

    So if you still decide that you want to get a donkey, then make sure you don’t get one until you have the right experience to know what you’re doing. If you want a donkey, but a donkey isn’t a beginner animal, then you need to make sure you’re not a beginner when you get one.



  • They are not an animal you should get based on whimsey, they are animals that take a lot of effort and time to take care of, even if compared to some other farm animals they’re considered lower maintenance.

    Donkeys are working animals, but I don’t know what you mean by farm labour exactly, unless you’re referring to draft work? They were primarily pack animals and transportation animals but were also used for draft work too. They usually helped people carry their stuff when travelling because they’re actually quite strong, often stronger than horses of comparable size, and they’re lower maintenance and less expensive than horses. Even today they’re still regularly used for that purpose in countries with less industrial development. They were also often used for pulling plows or milling if that’s what you mean by farm labour in particular, but I’m not sure why someone would say that’s a myth. You can find plenty of pictures and videos of donkeys doing stuff like pulling plows on google, and the history of their use in this area is pretty well documented.

    But even in countries where they aren’t used as pack animals donkeys usually still have a job of some sort, often as a comfort companion animal for other species like horses (they’re less high strung than horses and have a calming effect on horses that take behavioural queues from herd mates for example) or guardian of a herd of other livestock like sheep or goats. They aren’t made to stand around doing nothing in a pen all day. And no, you absolutely shouldn’t just leave one alone for 3 days, they’re highly social animals who need companionship to be happy. They can get lonely and bored easily, and will not enjoy being alone for long periods of time. They do best with a herd to socialize with or at least another donkey (with some caveats in regards to ungelded donkeys). Companionship is very important for their mental well-being, and no, you will not be enough on your own, especially if you plan on taking 3 day fishing or shopping trips. Donkeys often form pairs and bonds with other animals in their herd and being without their companion or companions is stressful for them.

    And they may be easier to care for than horses, but that doesn’t mean they’re maintenance free, or expense free. They are high maintenance and expensive animals to keep, just like any larger animal. Their hooves need to be clipped regularly, they need constant shelter available since they have less protection from the elements due to the fact that they were bred for arid environments. They need proper access to grass hay for grazing but not enough to cause founder and obesity since they’re prone to over-eating if food is available in too much abundance. They need a certain amount of grazing hours per day, and constant water available. And those are just the very basics, not even including stuff like vet costs and vaccinations and grooming. I could go on for much longer on this topic, but this comment is already getting long so I’ll just say there’s a lot involved in their upkeep.

    Donkeys are also not easy to train like horses tend to be, and they can exhibit a lot of stubbornness. There’s a reason they aren’t exactly known for their obedience. They also need a lot of enrichment via toys and activities because they’re intelligent animals who require regular mental stimulation.

    I wouldn’t consider donkeys to have almost human lifespans. They live to about 30-35 years on average, which is a larger lifespan than some pet species, but isn’t comparable to humans. The only animals with comparable lifespans that aren’t obscenely high maintenance are like, tortoises. Anything else is more akin to raising a human child except they stay a toddler forever (macaws for example), or just ridiculously expensive to keep (like certain species of fish).

    If you want a lower maintenance companion animal with lots of personality then tbh just getting a regular dog or cat would probably fit your intended lifestyle more. You can even leash train them and bring them on your trips if you want. Or if you want a longer living animal, then get a tortoise or something, they can have plenty of personality if you learn how to read their behaviour. In all honesty I don’t think a donkey is a good match for you or your intended lifestyle. Only people who have significant experience working on farms and with farm animals should ever consider getting something like a donkey. They aren’t a beginner animal by any stretch of the imagination.